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Shootin’ with Grandpa December 27, 2010

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Visiting with Dad today for some post-holiday cheer and leftover mooching. The gals went shopping. The manly dudes went shooting. What was on the menu today?

From left to right: Colt Detective Special .38 — Kimber Pro Carry II .45 (not as pretty as Dave’s, but shoots as nice) — High Standard Sport King .22 LR — Smith & Wesson Highway Patrolman .357 (it turned a few heads at the range in a “what the hell was that?” way)

When the handguns were being put away, I put some of the long guns out for a photo as well. So, just for fun, and especially for Russ:

Browning Auto 5 — .33 Winchester Model 1886 — .30 Winchester Model 64 — L.C. Smith 12 — Sharps Model 1859 .52 cal

Also, I don’t think a new crime fighter has been introduced. This is Jasper–a.k.a. “Poochie.” I think my wife loves me as much as this dog, but I’m not sure I want to ask.

So Merry Late Christmas and a Happy New Year from the Utah Skinbads to you and urine.

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1. Vmaximus - December 27, 2010

Very nice Skinny.
I have that Kimber too.

2. Dave in Texas - December 27, 2010

niiiiiice

3. Russ from Winterset - December 27, 2010

I hear those High Standards are sweet shooters. And .33 Winchester? You need to have Doc Brown take a trip back in the DeLorean to get you ammo for that?

(I know that the ammo is available, but expensive. I just really wanted to use the first thought that came into my head because it’s a really good joke.)

4. Lipstick - December 27, 2010

Well hello Jasper! Who’s my sweet baby?

What kind of dog is he/she Skinny?

5. Tushar - December 28, 2010

I finally got my Green Card. I am thinking about buying something for me and the lady. Maybe a small revolver for the wife, and maaaaybe a .45 for myself. That Taurus Judge has been giving me a ‘come hither’ look too.

6. daveintexas - December 28, 2010

Shoot before you buy.

7. kevl - December 28, 2010

Look at the little Poo Poo! Sweet puppy.
And sweet guns! Dang I needs to go shootin.

The few times I’ve been to the range, I hear the familiar pop pop pop of various guns, then I hear a BOOOOM and wonder “what the hell cannon was that?” I bet heads did turn when you fired that .357.

8. daveintexas - December 28, 2010

Heard on the range Sunday afternoon.

Lane 8: KA-BOOOM!!
Lane 7: CRACK! CRACK!
Lane 6: BLAM!!
Lane 5: BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Lane 4: KA-WHUMP!!!
Lane 3: piff!

9. skinbad - December 28, 2010

Jasper is a rat terrier. Dad still has quite a bit of .33 ammo. I’m sure the “experts” would say not to shoot it because it’s so old. Like anyone is going to listen to the “experts.” Sheesh.

10. Tushar - December 28, 2010

>>Shoot before you buy.

I will.

11. Tushar - December 28, 2010

Stupid NJ gun laws don’t distinguish between open carry and CC. And CC are issued only to LEOs. So, useful only in home and on the range.

*Note: Always carry a wet noodle with you to whip an assailant and scare him away.

12. Cathy - December 28, 2010

Jasper is darling, Skinny. Our Rosie is part Rat Terrier and part Blue Healer.

Very Sweet, Cuddly, and Very Very Smart!

13. OBF - December 28, 2010

Tushar – nearly all of the guns I have purchased in the last 4 years have come from pawn shops. I’m not sure about the regs in your area but if such a monetary transaction is possible you can almost get two guns, slightly used, for the price of one new weapon.

Congrats on the green card and welcome to the land of the free and the home of the brave.

14. OBF - December 28, 2010

…on another note (for some reason Tushar’s green card status brought this to mind) some smart dude said that a “world is supported by four things; the learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the valor of the brave, and the prayers of the righteous.”

Pick any one or more of those four items and you will be a great addition to our society.

15. Retired Geezer - December 28, 2010

“world is supported by four things; the learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the valor of the brave, and the prayers of the righteous.”

That’s worth repeating.

Thanks.

16. Retired Geezer - December 28, 2010

Tushar, best gun for home defense is a Shotgun.

I bet even Michael, Dave, Sobek and Brew can agree on that.

*crosses fingers

17. Tushar - December 28, 2010

>>best gun for home defense is a Shotgun.

Ok, fine!

**crosses the .45 off the list, adds a Mossberg 500, while muttering darkly under his breath.

18. Michael - December 28, 2010

Agree.

19. BrewFan - December 28, 2010

Agree. And some Claymores.

20. Gromulin - December 28, 2010

Don’t worry about old ammo, as long as it’s not been exposed to excessive heat and/or vibration. My M1′s run fine on Greek 30-06 that was made in the mid 60′s, and shipped (more than) half way around the planet.

Tushar..get the .45, you won’t regret it. John Browning should be up there with Edison and Tesla. Not many objects invented before 1911 are still nearly state of the art today. And, gotta add,…if i didn’t live in CA (where it is considered a destructive device – an illegal shotgun by our pathetic laws) – I’d have a Taurus Judge in the truck at all times. First round birdshot, second buckshot, 3-5 either slugs or .45LC.

21. Gromulin - December 28, 2010

Oh yeah…and get the Mossberg too. I like the 590A1. Has a bayonet mount. Every gun should have a bayonet. Just…because.

22. Retired Geezer - December 28, 2010

Every gun should have a bayonet. Just…because.

Zombies?

Speaking of which whom, I gave this boxed set to Mrs. Geezer for Christmas:
http://amzn.to/ifDpKv

She may have been underwhelmed.

23. Retired Geezer - December 28, 2010

Ummmm… Milla Jovovich!

24. Tushar - December 28, 2010

Gromulin,

all advice duly noted and appreciated. However, I live in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey. Even if I manage to get a Shotgun without getting in trouble with the police, I will count myself lucky.

25. Gromulin - December 28, 2010

I thought CA was bad until I found out that hollwpoints were illegal in NJ. Get whatever you can, then. Shotguns are good. You can usually find 12GA pump combos with a 28″ barrel and a ‘home defense’ barrel for around $500. Real easy to change out barrels – no tools required. Clay shooting is more fun than you can imagine. It’s relatively inexpensive, social, builds basic skills, is fun and doesn’t seem ‘gun-nutty’ if you have prying neighbors. I just started a couple years ago year and have already bought a nice Beretta 391 and reloading gear.

26. daveintexas - December 28, 2010

>> Tushar, best gun for home defense is a Shotgun.

Yes.

27. Michael - December 28, 2010

The great thing about a pump action shotgun is that the sound of racking a shell is recognized by everyone. It is extremely intimidating. Any home intruder will instantly recognize that he is severely outgunned, will likely piss his pants, and will exit promptly, with no violence or legal complications for you.

Meaning, the best shotguns are over unders, but you don’t buy those for home defense. You buy them to knock little birds out of the sky.

28. daveintexas - December 28, 2010

Fuck that. If you’re in my house, I’m not giving you one chance in ten to start shooting at me.

29. Retired Geezer - December 29, 2010

Clay shooting is more fun than you can imagine. It’s relatively inexpensive, social, builds basic skills, is fun and doesn’t seem ‘gun-nutty’

Did I mention that I was the captain of the Showgirl Skeet Shooting Team?

http://blogidaho.biz/skeet3.jpg

OK, there was only one showgirl on the team.
That’s her husband in the top hat.

30. Retired Geezer - December 29, 2010

It was the Showgirl Table Tennis team that I was the coach of.

http://blogidaho.biz/TT girls.jpg

31. Retired Geezer - December 29, 2010
32. Dave in Texas - December 29, 2010

I want his job.

33. Gromulin - December 29, 2010
34. Russ from Winterset - December 29, 2010

As usual, Geezer is correct. A shotgun IS the best gun for defense; however, there’s no reason to limit yourself to JUST a shotgun. Do you only keep one flavor of jelly in your fridge at a time?

Get the .45 to compliment the scattergun. Hell, get a .38 special, a couple of .22s (revolver and semiauto), a .32ACP mousegun, a .357 mag for deer hunting/stopping moving cars by penetrating the engine block, and a 9mm just to round out the collection. Then you should get one or two obsolete guns in oddball calibers like 7.62 Nagant or .32 Rimfire Long just to finish off your stash.

35. skinbad - December 29, 2010

.45 to shotgun: “You have a beautiful walnut complexion.”

shotgun to .45: “You give the nicest compliments.”

Russ to skinbad: “Why are you such an a-hole?”

36. Mitchell - December 29, 2010

I got a new gun for next year’s Christmas: Kimber Stainless II with Night Sights.

Mom actually had me buy it for Dad for this year, but his arthritis makes it difficult for him to use it. So he gave it to me for next year.

37. Russ from Winterset - December 29, 2010

Tushar, b make sure that you get some non-lethal rubber buckshot for your scattergun……..it’s good for blasting smart-asses.

38. Tushar - December 29, 2010

Russ,

you are my Guru.

39. Retired Geezer - December 30, 2010

you are my Guru.

*Geezer’s lower lip starts to tremble slightly

40. Russ from Winterset - December 30, 2010

Tushar, I totally forgot to ask you: Are either you or your wife left handed? If you’re both leftys, it’s an easier problem to deal with; however, if one of you is a righty and the other is a lefty, then that will make your firearm selection a little more difficult.

Some guns are ambidextrious (double barrel shotgun, revolver), others are available in both right & left configurations, while others are available in right hand configuration only.

Some leftys can shoot right handed, but you won’t know until you try. Just another thing to think about when you’re shopping for a heater.

41. Russ from Winterset - December 30, 2010

Geezer, just because I’m HIS guru, doesn’t mean that you’re not MY guru. So you’ve got that going for you. Which is nice. I think.

42. kevl - December 30, 2010

Don’t mess with Geezer. He’s the man when it comes to shootin.

I shot a revolver with a red laser sight on it. Really helped me settle down and BLAM more accurately. I liked it.

43. Tushar - December 30, 2010

Russ,
my wife is right handed.
I have a peculiar problem. I am right handed, but my right eye has very limited vision (not correctable by any means). In the past I tried to teach myself to shoot left-handed (using an air-gun, all that was available in India) but did not get much success. I am thinking of buying a .22 rifle and trying again.

44. Tushar - December 30, 2010

Geezer, that makes you my Maha-Guru (grand-Guru)

**bows respectfully to Geezer, Russ and all the gun experts at IB**

45. skinbad - December 30, 2010

It’s safe to do that here, Tushar. But when you’re at the hostages, make sure your back is to the wall before you bow.

46. Retired Geezer - December 30, 2010

*Geezer sticks his scrawny chest out with pride.

Mrs. Geezer took 9th place in the CAS (3-gun Cowboy Action Shooting) National Championships way back in the day.
She took a Silver medal in the Nevada Senior Games and a Silver Medal in the World Senior Olympics (3-gun).
Those were a few years ago also.

Anyway, I wanted to say that her favorite gun to shoot is the 12ga pump.
She shoots right-handed and keeps it on her shoulder when she reloads.

47. Retired Geezer - December 30, 2010

Apparently you need to practice to keep up your skilz cause I pretty much suck lately.

48. Michael - December 30, 2010

Tushar, I am right-handed but left eye dominant as well. Used to be right eye dominant, but my right eye vision has deteriorated with age (thanks to right eye, I can barely pass the driver’s vision test), so my brain switched to the left eye. The issue is not which eye has the best vision, but which eye is dominant.

You can easily tell your dominant eye. Hold out a finger upright at arms length and line it up with a vertical target, like the corner of a wall. If you shut one eye, it will stay in place. If you shut the other one, your finger will jump a couple of inches off target. That’s called parallax error. You don’t want to shoot with that eye.

With handguns, this is not a big problem. Just shoot with your right hand and the dominant eye. With long guns, it’s more of an issue, because you can’t put a rifle or shotgun on your right shoulder and aim very easily with your left eye. With a rifle, a scope can correct for your vision and adjust for parallax error at, say, 200 yards if you are trying to kill deer.

With a shotgun, getting the sites lined up right is going to be a problem. But, if you’re using a shotgun for home defense as opposed to shooting skeet, blowing a big hole in someone is not that hard at close range. You really don’t need to aim. Just point in the general direction of the intruders chest.

49. Retired Geezer - December 30, 2010

I’m like Michael, with the right-hand/left eye dominance, I just close my left eye when shooting.
That’s a no-no for people who are into combat shooting. You’re losing 50% of your situational awareness.

I considered changing to shooting long guns, on my left shoulder but never made the effort.

50. Michael - December 30, 2010

Geezer, I do the opposite. With a handgun, I close my right eye so that I have a clear view of the front site and the target. It moves my arm a little to the left, maybe degrading the shock absorption a bit, but I think it works better.

With a shotgun, I would go with my right eye and keep the gun on my right shoulder, however fuzzy my vision. I have shot a sporting clays course with an over under supplied by a friend, and was surprised by the ease with which you can knock moving objects out of the sky, traveling at various angles. You just have to track the target for a second, lead it a little, and squeeze the trigger.

51. Michael - December 30, 2010

She shoots right-handed and keeps it on her shoulder when she reloads.

Your wife is too sexy for her shirt.

52. daveintexas - December 30, 2010

I close both eyes and squeeze the trigger. A lot.

53. Tushar - December 30, 2010

Um, I don’t have a dominant left eye. I have a effin blind right eye.

54. lauraw - December 30, 2010

when you’re at the hostages, make sure your back is to the wall before you bow.

spoilsport

55. Tushar - December 31, 2010

Lauraw,

I know many Hostages would love to kiss my brown ass, way up where it is browner, but I think I will heed Skinbad’s advice.


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