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Skyline Chili November 4, 2007

Posted by daveintexas in Law, Man Laws, Philosophy, Science.
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Nothing brings on the throw down like a good fight over chili recipes. Contests are common, chests are thrust out, and battles fought over varying types and volume of chili peppers, how much garlic should you use, isn’t fresh ground cumin just so much better?

There is the great “beans, no beans” debate.

The Chili Appreciation Society International sponsors a bunch of chili cook-offs all over the country, including Terlingua Texas where they started 30 years ago. Incidentally, if you want to know where Terlingua is, it’s on the north side of highway 170, eleven miles west of Study Butte and 7 miles east of Lajitas.

Anyway, kevlarchick and I have had a friendly debate over the quality and appeal of a chain of restaurants called Skyline Chili. Now I personally had never tried it before, but as a chili snob and an insufferable Texan I merely applied my innate knowledge and prejudices and said “no way any chili from Ohio is worth stickin a spoon into. No way”.

Of course she argued it was perfectly fine chili, conceded it was a mild formula, but that it was “good”. Since I had never tried it, she claimed I could not offer an informed opinion on the matter. “Well”, I said, “I’ve never eaten dog shit either but I don’t think I’m way out on a limb in suggesting it wouldn’t be very good”.

“Nonsense” she replies. Probably waving her hand dismissively at the keyboard and going off to do some girl thing.

“Michael agreed with me, remember, and he’s probably eaten the stuff too. He said it sucked”.

“Michael’s palate has been ruined by Marlboro Lights; he can’t possibly be objective in this regard”.

Grrr.

Well, as I was wandering down Market Street in Louisville last week, I stumbled across a Skyline Chili Restaurant. I wasn’t going to do it, but thought “what the hell, I’ll try it”.

So I went in and sat down. The decor was, ok I suppose. Kind of a 60s’ feel about it. I grabbed a menu and studied it… mostly things you would expect in a chili joint, chili, coneys, burritos and things. I considered a coney but I didn’t want the bread, and noticed they had a “low carb” version, three dogs in a bowl, covered with chili, cheese and mustard. Onions optional.

I ordered same.

I also noticed a variety of other options, various things you can dump chili on like french fries, potatoes, and spaghetti noodles.

People, that right there should be enough evidence. If you have a chili recipe that is mild and you can put it on noodles, it’s f’n’ spaghetti sauce.

It is cutely called a “Three Way”. Titter, snicker.

Anyway, I ordered the low carb coney, mit onions.

It arrived.

I tasted it.

Well, I tried to taste it. I put in on a spoon and stuck it in my mouth. But I couldn’t taste anything.

Honestly, how can something with onions not have any flavor?

There was a bottle of hot sauce on the table, so I dumped a ton of that crap into it, which made it taste like hot sauce and dreck.

The Skyline Story says a young Greek boy, Nicholas Lambrinides watched his mother and his grandmother prepare authentic Greek dishes, and he dreamed of the day he would come to America and serve them to his customers.

For some reason not explained, he abandoned the authentic Greek dishes plan and decided to serve this junk instead.

Well Nicholas, you did all right for yourself, I suppose. I think there was a little luck involved, coming in through Ellis Island and not Galveston. I think your business model worked better in Ohio.

There it is KC. I’m sorry, but it’s not chili, it’s spaghetti sauce, and that’s just the f’n’ way it is.

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Comments

1. Michael - November 4, 2007

Michael agreed with me, remember, and he’s probably eaten the stuff too. He said it sucked”

Indeed I have eaten Skyline chili, and I reiterate that it sucks. This half-assed Ohio version of chili is distinguished by a big dose of cinnamon, fer cryin’ out loud, which is pretty much the dominant flavor. I was shocked to learn that people would do that to a bowl of chili. Or have the audacity to sell it and call it chili. Or consume it in public without any apparent embarrassment.

2. Cathy - November 4, 2007

Not just Cinnamon…
…also has Allspice, Garlic, and Bay leaves

It’s not bad. It’s just not chili. The “Cincinnati Recipe” I have doesn’t even have chili powder, jalapeños or any chilies or any sort in it. What’s that about?

No plans to serve it at the IBSBP unless KC wants it.

3. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

I thought I tasted some brown sugar but I might have confused it for the cinnamon.

4. Michael - November 4, 2007

It’s like those crazies in Cincinnati have decided that chili should taste like a pumpkin pie. Which I don’t like either.

5. geoff - November 4, 2007

I love the 5-Way, but it hates me. All both times I had it, my intestines were thoroughly defeated. In minutes.

Reg’lar, chili, though, is no problem.

And I agree with Cathy – I never thought of it as chili, just reprehensible fast food. Which I love.

6. See-Dubya - November 4, 2007

“Coneys”? Is that what you call hot dogs in Texas? Or were these some sort of rabbit?

7. See-Dubya - November 4, 2007

I understand the secret ingredient for Dave’s chili is something called “Jenkem”. Anyone know what that is?

8. Cathy - November 4, 2007

I thought I tasted some brown sugar but…

Dave, I don’t have the official Skyline recipe. You may have tasted brown sugar.

Maybe you just got a whiff of the carmelization from browning the meat or sugars from the tomatoes.

9. Cathy - November 4, 2007

Btw, I have a friend who makes a mean chili with lots of chili spices AND also uses clove, cinnamon, and allspice. It’s wicked.

She has cultivated it to tingle or burn all parts of the mouth and tongue, and even in the back of the throat after you swallow it.

She competes.

10. Pupster - November 4, 2007

Louisville has some fine BBQ joints, but I doubt they are as good as Texas either.

I like Skyline’s coney dogs, but you have to get them with cheese for texture and mustard to stamp out the cinnamon. It’s not really chili in the classic sense, but most people have their own baseline chili tastes.

Mother Pupster used to make a very bland chili with canned tomatoes and kidney beans, which we would eat poured over cornbread. The after effects were more enjoyable than the meal.

11. Michael - November 4, 2007

Just found a comment by lauraw, made this morning, which anticipated the chile discussion. Here it is.

Sidebar is all mine with another news nugget:

Hot chile peppers become new anesthetic.

12. Mr Minority - November 4, 2007

Iffin’ y’all want to try some good chili (and I mean really good) that comes in a bag, then try Carol Shelby’s Texas Chili. (Yeah, it was created by that Carol Shelby of the Shelby AC and Shelby Cobra fame.) It comes in a little paper sack, and all you have to do is add meat.

Forget the beans, beans will ruin chili faster than you can say “Yankees put cinnamon in their chili”

Chili doesn’t have to be hot, but it does have to be spicy, and to me those spices don’t include cinnamon, or brown sugar, cloves or allspice, those spices are for cakes and pies, not chili.

13. mesablue - November 4, 2007

“Coneys”? Is that what you call hot dogs in Texas?

Heh, they’re chili dogs. The idiots here in Detroit think that they invented them since there is a “coney” place about every fifty feet, it’s what passes as “haute cuisine” here. The fact that their full name is “Coney Island” seems to escape them. I always ask them where Coney Island, Michigan is — blank stares.

Skyline chili is an abomination — baby vomit with extra cinnamon.

Oh, and I can make the IBSP now since I’ll be on a six month paid vacation starting Jan 1.

14. Michael - November 4, 2007

Amen, Mr. M. I remember being one of the judges for a chili cook-off at work here in Ohio (United Way fundraiser). I had to eat samples of about 30 chilis, and I kept running into this cinnamon flavor in a situation where I had to be polite. Meaning, I could not spit it back into the cook’s face without attracting the attention of HR.

15. Michael - November 4, 2007

Oh, and I can make the IBSP now since I’ll be on a six month paid vacation starting Jan 1.

Great! I’ll email you the directions.

16. Mr Minority - November 4, 2007

I could not spit it back into the cook’s face without attracting the attention of HR.

Would a rather noisy puking on the cook’s feet gotten you in trouble?

17. geoff - November 4, 2007

Chili doesn’t have to be hot, but it does have to be spicy

No way, dude. It gots to be skin peeling and sweat inducing.

Fire food.

18. Michael - November 4, 2007

No way, dude. It gots to be skin peeling and sweat inducing.

Yeah, Geoff, it’s easy to talk tough on a comment thread. If you and Mrs. Geoff can make it to the IBSBP, one of the attractions will be Dave’s Afterburner Chili prepared by Dave. Just sayin’.

Mrs. Geoff can probably handle it. She looks like a pretty tough chick to me.

I’m not so sure about you.

19. Cathy - November 4, 2007

Mr. Min.
Michael and I have had Shelby’s chili. Yup. Got it in a little paper bag at our H.E.B. in San Antonio. It’s good stuff.

I use pinto beans in chili. Too bad if you don’t like it, pardner. Yea — I’ve heard all about the meat-only purists. But pinto beans are good at absorbing the spice and meat flavors… much better than kidney beans. And beans are good food…good source of protein, fiber, nutrients and low fat. They also help to thicken the gravy.

20. geoff - November 4, 2007

I’m not so sure about you.

Bring it, law-boy.

21. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

I get it that it’s not chili. Just kinda bugs me that they call it that.

Not bugs in a “I want to kick open the door and open fire” way. More a “You sirs are misrepresenting your wares, and that is low” way.

22. Retired Geezer - November 4, 2007

Hey, I won a chili contest here in the Spud State… Well 3rd place actually.

I put Fennel in it.

That ought to piss off just about everybody.

23. Michael - November 4, 2007

RG, please tell us you did not put potatoes in it. Again.

24. mesablue - November 4, 2007

I put Fennel in it.

We’re talking about chili here, not your ass.

/Wickedpinto

25. BrewFan - November 4, 2007

More a “You sirs are misrepresenting your wares, and that is low” way.

So you’re saying Skyline is to chili what Tex-Mex is to Mexican food? I would agree with that. But not in a bad way. Its just a regional thing. I always looked forward to Gold Star chili dogs on my trips through Cincy.

26. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

Real mexican food sucks. I wouldn’t feed that to a dog.

27. Moses - November 4, 2007

Real mexican food sucks. I wouldn’t feed that to a dog.

I wish you’d let me make that decision.

28. Cathy - November 4, 2007

won a chili contest here in the Spud State… put Fennel in it

Congrats, Geezer. I created a chili recipe, entered it in competition, and got an honorable mention. I put currants in it.

I’m thinkin’ your fennel was a smarter choice.

29. kevlarchick - November 4, 2007

Cheese coneys, Brew, are the shiznit. I loves em. It’s an acqured taste, like coffee, or worse, brisket. Stringy shit.

Dave, you likely smothered that chili in so much hot sauce. That’s my guess.

A guy I work with, from West Virgina, refers to Cincinnatians as “chili eaters.” It is a harsh insult indeed.

30. Cathy - November 4, 2007

KC — do you make Cincinnati Chili from scratch? Do you have a recipe?

*tries to be charming hoping to fish for a better recipe*

31. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

I wish I had smothered it in chili but they didn’t have any.

32. Michael - November 4, 2007

Real mexican food sucks. I wouldn’t feed that to a dog.

You are a moron. Like Chinese or Indian food, real Mexican food is regional, highly various, and often excellent. It’s not the Tex-Mex we are used to. Yucatan sea food dishes, for example, are something you don’t want to miss.

33. lauraw - November 4, 2007
34. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

You mean the fancee mexican tourist food?

I’m sure that’s just muy bueno, gringo. I’m talking about the genuine crap I’ve had in Axochiapan, Tepalcingo and Pueble Nuevo. That was shit, it was so bad I’d rather eat Skyline chili.

35. Cathy - November 4, 2007

Awhile back I learned that Tex-Mex was the innovation of a group of women in San Antonio, who sold the “fast food” from carts on the streets to the local workers.
(Food Network)

36. Michael - November 4, 2007

Laura, I’m all in favor of letting poor little Tara get cigarette breaks if she’s addicted, so that she can succeed in school. It is important that she get an education. Here’s how I see it:

1. First of all, I’m a smoker, so I empathize with her.

2. Secondly, I can’t help but notice that at the age of 16 Tara has enormous knockers. I mean, dang, she’s got some really impressive T-shirt stretchers! If there is any possible link between smoking and awesome hooters, then I think we should be tolerant.

37. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

Oh, and that doctor in the article lauraw linked is a moron. If the kid is addicted to nicotine, there are ways of delivering it without cigarettes.

And if she has clinically diagnosed anxiety or bipolar issues, there are other things you can prescribe besides Camels.

38. Retired Geezer - November 4, 2007

#33
I’m speechless.
Conned is right.

39. harrison - November 4, 2007

First of all, I’m a smoker…
If there is any possible link between smoking and awesome hooters…
-Michael

Why, you thinking of a change?

40. forged rite - November 4, 2007

Unbelievable.

We smoked all the time at my high school. At lunch, in between classes, basically whenever we had a couple of spare minutes. As long as we smoked outside it was ok. Anybody ever had Frito Pie? It’s just chili with fritos in it, but it’s pretty good.

41. Michael - November 4, 2007

Laura, do you keep in touch with Megan? Is she OK?

I miss being “Butters” and getting my ass kicked by her. I was just looking at the thread where you recruited her to pwn me on the Passion Narrative. That girl is scary smart, in a lot of ways. And, really, a nice person.

42. Cathy - November 4, 2007

Dave,
Michael and I ate authentic Mexican food in the Yucatan in little places that weren’t there for tourists in early 1983, which was before Cancun became a major tourist destination. We traveled by car on our own all over the Yucatan. I will never forget the roast chicken baked in banana leaves and similar dishes using seafood. While living in San Antonio we took family visiting with us to Laredo, over the border into Mexico, and ate at a fine dining restaurant called (I think) the Victoriana. The food was very good, and again, not TexMex.

Tomatoes were rarely the base for their foods. Stuff was not too spicy or greasy. The chicken and fish we had was packed with flavor and the meats moist and tender. Lots of things were served with rice or potatoes. I don’t remember being served beans very often.

It was nothing like Tex-Mex, and since then we have enjoyed similar culinary treasures in our travels to Guatemala, Belize, and Peru.

In Antigua Guatemala I remember being served an awesome chicken stew with a rich gravy over rice, and topped with white flowers that looked and smelled something like honeysuckle blossoms. Yum!

43. kevlarchick - November 4, 2007

Cathy, no. I do make chili from scratch, but not the Cincy type. I go to Skyline for my fix.

Dave’s right, it’s a thin a mild sauce, but it’s perfect on spag with cheddar cheese, or on a coney.

44. Michael - November 4, 2007

Forged Rite, I have long had the impression that you were a juvenile delinquent, and now you have confirmed it. Thank you for validating my instincts.

While I was playing clarinet in a Boy Scout marching band, you were smoking and making out with girls.

I hate you.

45. lauraw - November 4, 2007

Secondly, I can’t help but notice that at the age of 16 Tara has enormous knockers.

I can’t help but notice that at the age of 16 Tara has a hard, mean face that says she’d just as soon let you touch her knockers as cut your throat.

46. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

The stuff Ernesto served up for lunch, he swore it was chicken, but I know I heard barking from out back.

Anyway, it was awful stuff.

47. lauraw - November 4, 2007

Haven’t spoken with Megan since I switched from AIM to gmail, lo these many moons. AIM just wanted to take over my little work computer and I had to get rid of it.

She probably still hangs out at The Pit under the moniker CancerMarney. I tried registering there several times, but my login was always rejected.

48. Michael - November 4, 2007

I can’t help but notice that at the age of 16 Tara has a hard, mean face . . .

Wait, Tara has a face?

*Michael goes back to link*

49. Michael - November 4, 2007

She probably still hangs out at The Pit under the moniker CancerMarney. I tried registering there several times, but my login was always rejected.

Dang. I knew she dropped out because of a health issue. Didn’t know it was cancer.

50. forged rite - November 4, 2007

While I was playing clarinet in a Boy Scout marching band, you were smoking and making out with girls.

Heh. Well, i was smoking anyway. But i played trumpet in the school band, so between the cigarette breath and the constant red ring around my mouth from the trumpet mouthpiece, the girls weren’t too interested. Has no one had Frito Pie? If not you should try it, it’s actually pretty good.

51. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

Frito pie has been a staple here for as long as I can remember. We used to buy it at high school football games.

52. Michael - November 4, 2007

Laura, what’s the URL for The Pit? Maybe I can register there and say hello.

53. mesablue - November 4, 2007

I can’t help but notice that at the age of 16 Tara weighs about 2 bucks 50. Those aren’t really boobs.

54. lauraw - November 4, 2007
55. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

mesa, I saw upthread you are going to be able to make it to Columbus, that’s awesome.

I hope everything’s ok.. not sure what 6 months paid vacation is.

56. mesablue - November 4, 2007

The secret is revealed at The Hostages. There’s a contest and everything.

57. lauraw - November 4, 2007

OK, just checked, looks like she’s now using the moniker She-Ra.

58. lauraw - November 4, 2007

Just popped her an email.

59. Michael - November 4, 2007

After many years of corporate loyalty, Mesa is the victim of the Reorg and RIF Routine that has become standard in corporate America. So, he’s an IT guy looking for a job. He wants to get out of Detroit and move someplace warm.

60. geoff - November 4, 2007

The secret is revealed at The Hostages.

Sucky news, that. Hope things work out.

OK, just checked, looks like she’s now using the moniker She-Ra.

That’s beautiful. Why did Megan abandon AoSHQ? Was it the pre-election flapdoodle with the hoi polloi?

61. Bart - November 4, 2007

I enjoyed the arguments between Megan and Warden over the UFC.

62. mesablue - November 4, 2007

Hey Michael, you’re a lawyer type. I think my being severed invalidates my non-compete. Is that common? Funny thing, our biggest and only competitor is kind of down the road from you in Dayton. Geez, I’ve never considered living in Ohio, of all places, before. But, then again, I thought the same thing about Detroit.

Also, now I don’t have to be tainted by association with a certain company (Reuters) that my company was merging with. 🙂

63. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

Oh, damn. Sorry to hear that mb.

I get so behind when I travel. And I’m out tomorrow for another week.

I need IB in a Hurry!

I don’t think I saw Megan after the November elections. I hope she read the “Thanks Nancy”! thread and got a chuckle out of it.

64. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

Oh, and whenever we felt the need to draw up a non-compete, it was always contingent on the employee quitting. No bind if we let em go.

65. Michael - November 4, 2007

Hey Michael, you’re a lawyer type. I think my being severed invalidates my non-compete. Is that common?

I’d be careful. You need to take a close look at that contract to determine if your obligations vary depending on the cause of your termination. The fact that you were laid off does not necessarily mean that you can work for a competitor.

Non-competes are officially disfavored by the law, because they prevent people from working for a living. That means, they are hard for the employer to enforce. Courts look for an excuse to invalidate them. Often, they are unenforceable because they are overbroad. The rules vary by state. But, if a non-compete is limited in scope and time, it can be enforced, and employers take this seriously. Especially in the IT business. I take a pretty aggressive position when a competitor hires an ex-employee of ours.

66. geoff - November 4, 2007

I hope she read the “Thanks Nancy”! thread and got a chuckle out of it.

That was a great thread.

67. Mrs. Peel - November 4, 2007

Dave’s right. Tex-Mex good, “authentic” Mexican food bad. I also will never understand why people insist that “authentic” Mexican/Chinese/Thai/Boston pizza/whatever is to be found only in filthy, poorly lit, vermin-infested holes. I’ll stick to clean, bright restaurants, thanks.

PS, Belize, Peru, and Guatemala are not Mexico.

Sorry to hear about that, mesa, but it does sound like while a window has been closed, a giant frickin’ door has been opened. Good luck, and let us know what happens.

68. Michael - November 4, 2007

PS, Belize, Peru, and Guatemala are not Mexico.

Gee, Mrs. Peel, thanks for putting all that wisdom to us.

69. Michael - November 4, 2007

I mean, we just never could figger out geography, so thanks for the help.

70. daveintexas - November 4, 2007

That was a great thread.

I won a major award.

71. mesablue - November 4, 2007

I’ve had some amazing food in Mexico. In the Yucatan and Michoacan/Morelia. Mexico City also has restaurants that rival those anyplace in the world.

I’ve also eaten well in Columbia, which until tonight I considered to be in extreme southern Mexico — they speak mexican there.

72. Michael - November 4, 2007

Well, Mesablue, you must be mistaken. Mrs. Peel knows sooo much more than us. She recently survived puberty, after all.

73. Cathy - November 4, 2007

Mesa, sorry to hear about the job thing, but very glad that you will try to make it to the IBSBP, buddy.

Dave, I’m a big fan of Frito Pie. Haven’t had it in years.

74. See-Dubya - November 4, 2007

My high school cafeteria served Frito Pie every Thursday.

We had a lot of fat kids. Fat, gassy kids.

75. Lipstick - November 4, 2007

Sorry to hear about that Mesa.

Have you considered wild, wonderful Las Vegas? Warm weather, showgirls, Lake Mead.

76. Retired Geezer - November 4, 2007

Warm weather, showgirls,

*Geezer thinks for a moment*

Nahhhhh.

77. Lipstick - November 4, 2007

Old hat to you, eh?

78. Mrs. Peel - November 5, 2007

An actual conversation on the topic of “authentic” ethnic foods:

Me: I don’t like that restaurant. They put lime on their fajita meat, which I think tastes bad.
Coworker: But it’s authentic! Poor Mexicans marinate their skirt steak in lime every day! How can you not like it???
Me: I’m not a poor Mexican. I can afford to buy high-quality skirt steak that doesn’t have to be soaked in citrus juices to be rendered palatable.

QED.

I’m sure the restaurants in Mexico City are excellent. That doesn’t mean that “authentic” Mexican food won’t give you food poisoning.

(Incidentally, the scare quotation marks mean that I am referring to the dingy holes that most people insist are “authentic” restaurants. I would be very happy to learn that such squalor is not, in fact, representative of how actual Mexicans eat, but in the meantime, I’ll stick to Tex-Mex.)

I didn’t intend to offend you to such an extreme degree with my discourses on geography. I was in a hurry and didn’t finish my thought. (And now I’ve forgotten it.)

79. mesablue - November 5, 2007

Vegas would be interesting, but I know myself — too many temptations.

If I’m going to move, I really want to be near blue water. I was planning on moving in a couple of years so I’ve got a few places in mind. I also can’t move too far, my son is still in high school and I don’t want to be so far that an hour or two flight for weekends is not an option.

In the long run, I think I’ll come out way ahead on this one. No worries.

Ok, worries, but not big one’s. Possibly, serendipitous luck. We make our own fortune and if my company wants to help finance the next stage of my life — I’m not going to question it too much.

80. Michael - November 5, 2007

I didn’t intend to offend you to such an extreme degree with my discourses on geography. I was in a hurry and didn’t finish my thought.

The next time you are in a hurry, Mrs. Peel, I suggest that you shut your arrogant and ignorant little yap before you insult my wife.

81. mesablue - November 5, 2007

I can afford to buy high-quality skirt steak

Is there such a thing? 😉

Citrus is a great preservative/marinade/acidic cooking method. Orange is one of the more popular methods in southern Mexico, it lends a unique flavor when aging. Great with seafood as well. But, I don’t think they put it on fajita meat in a real Mexican restaurant in actual Mexico. Fajitas are gringo food. No non-tourist restaurant would serve them.

Also, ceviche is one of my favorite things…yum.

82. Russ from Winterset - November 5, 2007

“That was a great thread.

I won a major award.”

(Russ furtively looks around for a frah-GEEE-lay sticker to put onto a box of disembodied limbs to be sent to Texas on Monday’s UPS truck)

83. Michael - November 5, 2007

Also, ceviche is one of my favorite things…yum.

I first had ceviche at a waterfront restaurant in Peru (Peru is where it is believed to have originated) . I had never heard of it before. It’s basically chemical cooking without heat, relying on citrus juice to cook the proteins of fish meat. Great stuff.

84. mesablue - November 5, 2007

Ah Peru,

Back when I used to do interesting things; I hiked a good portion of the Inca trails starting in Cuzco (Cusco), up through Machu Picchu and Titicaca and then back to the coast — I was rewarded at the end with cold cerveza and multiple varieties of ceviche and South American empanadas on the beach. I didn’t want to leave. The whole ketchup on shrimp thing was a little weird, though.

Peru is also the only place that I’ve eaten fried guinea pig. Doesn’t suck.

The ayahuasca experience was fairly interesting, as well.

85. Mrs. Peel - November 5, 2007

Oh. I actually did mean to delete that line before I posted, Michael, precisely because it came out sounding insulting and I hadn’t completed whatever I was going to say. I just forgot. I apologize. I didn’t intend to insult Mrs. M and I’m very sorry I screwed up.

86. Cathy - November 5, 2007

Hey Mrs. Peel.
Your comment looked odd to me, so I figured you were having a bad day, shrugged it off, and headed for bed. I screw up too.

87. Bart - November 5, 2007

I call for a moratorium on all chili discussions at IB.

88. Dave in Texas - November 5, 2007

I warned that passions become inflamed over chili.

Wars have been fought.

Well, minor skirmishes.

89. Mrs. Peel - November 5, 2007

I appreciate that, Cathy. I’m sorry. You have been nothing but gracious and generous, and I never meant to insult you. I didn’t realize that Michael was serious until I saw his last comment this morning, scrolled up and reread, and realized that that line appeared to be directed at you. I’m very upset and very sorry that I insulted you. I had intended to delete that line anyway, as I said, but if I had noticed that it was your comment I was referencing, I definitely wouldn’t have forgotten.

Bart, I actually don’t like chili at all, so that’s fine by me.

90. Bart - November 5, 2007

Yeah, I think it’s for the best.

91. Cuffy Meigs - November 5, 2007

Anybody ever had Frito Pie? It’s just chili with fritos in it, but it’s pretty good.

Oooo, this is the ultimate Frito pie. Petros are a staple at Neyland Stadium—I’ll be there with Mrs. Cuffy (a Vol) this coming weekend for the Arkansas game. I’m gonna eat about 3 Petros.

No, there is no petroleum in a Petro. I think.

92. pjmomma - November 5, 2007

Ah I’ve never gotten food poisoning eating in Mexico. I’ve had worse experiences at restaurants in California.

I’m not a fan of Tex-Mex cuz to me that’s not Mexican food.

As a kid growing up in San Diego, we’d often spends weeks at a time eating with people in their villages and the food is divine.

In in Jacksonville, Fl now and I think the food is awful. So depressing.

Only thing I’m not fond of is when my sister-in-law from Guadalajara would cook for us, we’d be eating soups that had whole pig snout and tails in it. Just not appetizing. I can survive without that kind of native food.

93. geoff - November 5, 2007

Yeah, I think it’s for the best.

Trying to crush our free speech, eh? You’re the Hugo Chavez of chili (which is not, BTW, in Venezuela).

94. geoff - November 5, 2007

As a kid growing up in San Diego, we’d often spends weeks at a time eating with people in their villages and the food is divine.

Yes, the quaint villages of La Jolla and Solana Beach are famed for their simple but tasty fare.

95. pjmomma - November 5, 2007

we’d often spend
I’m in Jacksonville

96. pjmomma - November 5, 2007

It’s hard to type with kids hanging on me.

97. pjmomma - November 5, 2007

Yes, the quaint villages of La Jolla and Solana Beach are famed for their simple but tasty fare.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That’s not what I meant.

98. Michael - November 5, 2007

Thanks, Mrs. Peel. I obviously overreacted, so I apologize as well.

99. Pupster - November 5, 2007

*group hug*

*assgrab*

100. BrewFan - November 5, 2007

May I .make a suggestion? We all have each others email address so if you feel insulted by something another IB person writes email them instead of flaming them. Chances are its a misunderstanding anyway.

101. Bart - November 5, 2007

f you

102. BrewFan - November 5, 2007

whats your email address?

103. Cathy - November 5, 2007

f you

Hey great idea Brew. I don’t seem to have Bart’s email address. Maybe somebody could shoot it to me.

heh

104. Bart - November 5, 2007

whats your email address?

I’ll give it to you only if you send me noodz.

105. Michael - November 5, 2007

if you feel insulted by something another IB person writes email them instead of flaming them

That is an insulting suggestion. Please check your inbox for uncouth comments about your mother.

106. kevlarchick - November 5, 2007

Can’t we assholes all just get along?

107. Cathy - November 5, 2007

Bart I’ll send you noodles if you give me your snail-mailing address.

We could use a code: DYRMTYJ? = Do you really mean that, you jerk?

108. lauraw - November 5, 2007

email them instead of flaming them

Horrible idea.

1.) If it’s me, I don’t want to be denied the opportunity to make a public spectacle of myself.

2.) If it’s someone else, I don’t want to be denied the opportunity to watch other retards slap the drool out of each other’s mouths.

I have so very little, Brewfan.
Don’t take this away.

109. Cathy - November 5, 2007

I have so very little.

Lauraw, you need noodles?

110. geoff - November 5, 2007

I have so very little, Brewfan. Don’t take this away.

Oh the humanity. This cries out for a “Your Chili Sux” thread.

111. Bart - November 5, 2007

I have my own damn noodle.

112. Lipstick - November 5, 2007

The limp one?

113. Bart - November 5, 2007

Where’s the damn :rollseyes: smilie?

114. BrewFan - November 5, 2007

I forgot to mention the one exception to my rule. Me.

Michael, eat me.

115. Cuffy Meigs - November 5, 2007

I don’t want to be denied the opportunity to watch other retards slap the drool out of each other’s mouths.

I know a certain troll who will not be amused by that mockery of ‘tards…

116. Bart - November 5, 2007

See what happens when you let me out of the ICGWYW thread?

That’ll teach you to let me roam freely around the blog.

117. geoff - November 5, 2007

I know a certain troll who will not be amused by that mockery of ‘tards…

Speak not that name, for it will summon him as surely as speaking beD hcsirF will bring down the Internet’s #1 psychotic stalker.

118. Cathy - November 5, 2007

Michael, eat me.

Brew. Screw you.

Get in line.

119. Corky - November 5, 2007

Wuth up guyth?

120. daveintexas - November 5, 2007

This will pretty much ice my nomination for ambassador to Russia.

121. Lipstick - November 5, 2007

GLAR, Cathy!

122. Corky - November 5, 2007

My name is Chris!

123. Michael - November 5, 2007

Hi Chris. How long have you been an alcoholic?

124. Dave in Texas - November 6, 2007

you’re not supposed to ask that

125. Chili Articles » Blog Archive » Comment on Skyline Chili by forged rite - November 7, 2007

[…] Original post by forged rite […]

126. Chili Articles » Blog Archive » Comment on Skyline Chili by Michael - November 7, 2007

[…] Original post by Michael […]

127. mesablue - November 7, 2007

Chili Articles >>Blog Archive>>Comment on Skyline Chili by Lauraw thinks Nice Deb has a hairy chest.

Yeah, I con’t get it either. But, it’s true.

128. Sticky B - November 8, 2007

If you’re not wiping your ass with a snow cone the day after, then you didn’t really eat chili.

129. Megan - November 15, 2007

Hey, kids. Yeah, I’m still at the Pit, and I didn’t resign from Ace’s site so much as I no longer really had the time to go there every day. Pretty busy with all the shit happening these days, plus I’m being groomed for a new position in the group I work for. It’s tough to keep up, and my internet time is limited.

Regarding my “health issues,” it’s pretty much an open secret now that I do have cancer, but the nickname “Cancer Marney” was never a reference to that. It was a reference to my favorite character on the X-Files, the “Cigarette-Smoking Man,” or, as he was sometimes called, “Cancer Man.” (Amusingly, despite my pack-a-day habit, my lungs are still perfectly clean.) The “Marney” part comes from a character I liked in one of my favorite computer games, Ultima VI. She says it means “the calm that comes after a storm.”

Also, I switch names at the Pit fairly often, so don’t be surprised if you see me as any of the following: Adora, Annika, Annika Hansen, Cancer Marney, Christie Blaze, Jenny Sparks, Judith, Kerrigan, Marney, Megan, Morrigan, Princess Adora, Sarah, Sarah Kerrigan, Seven, Seven of Nine, or She-Ra. Depends on my mood.

Feel free to get in touch with me on Windows Messenger if y’all miss me this much. I’m usually around in the evenings, unless I’m having a sleepover with my girlfriends or doing scary secret agent stuff. The ID is shivaxid@yahoo.com.

And thanks for all the compliments. 🙂 I was charmed.

130. daveintexas - November 15, 2007

Hey toots! Good to hear from you.

And I hope you are kicking cancer’s ass, girl. Tell cancer to fuck off already.

Get healthy, say hidy once in a while if time allows.

131. Megan - November 15, 2007

No worries. When I die, it’s going to be in a fucking hail of gunfire, not lying in my bed with IVs up my cute li’l ass.

132. daveintexas - November 15, 2007

amen sistah

133. Michael - November 15, 2007

Hi Megan! Thanks for stopping by.

(Please don’t hurt me.)

Yours,

Butters

134. Megan - November 15, 2007

Anytime, baby. You’re all welcome at the Pit too, if you want to check it out. I’ll tell the admins to stand by.

135. lauraw - November 15, 2007

Megan!

136. Megan - November 15, 2007

Thought I’d share, as it might amuse you guys.

(original post edited slightly for clarity)

From last night:

An eager young lady just came to my front door a little while ago. When she rang the bell, I thought it was one of my girlfriends arriving somewhat early for the sleepover, so I got out of my hot tub, put on my bathrobe, and went to answer it.

Me, obviously not recognizing her, and somewhat puzzled: Uh… yes?
Her, chirpily offering me a clipboard and a pen: Good evening, ma’am! Could I ask you if you’re interested in helping America’s working families?
Me: Not particularly.
Her, confused: I’m sorry?
Me: That’s usually code for “helping unions rip off America’s working families.”
Her: Oh no, ma’am! We’re not affiliated with the unions at all! We only work with non-union families…
Me, folding my arms: You’re bought and paid for by the AFL-CIO, kid.
Her, defensively: Really, ma’am… I assure you –
Me: Who put you up to this? Chuck?
Her: Chuck?
Me: Schumer.
Her: Uh, no…
Me: Huh. It wouldn’t have been a halfway bad joke if he had…
Her: Ma’am –
Me: You really have no idea who I am, do you?
Her, baffled: Um, no, ma’am.
Me, shaking my head: Well, just chalk it up to God’s twisted sense of humor. Goodnight.
Her, recovering just before I close the door: Ma’am! What did you mean about the unions?
Me, pausing: You mean you honestly didn’t know?
Her: Know what?
Me, sighing patiently: Kid, the overwhelming majority of your group’s members donated to Democrats. You think it’s some kind of charity? You’re working for an activist organization which was formed explicitly to defeat Republicans.
Her, appalled: But… but… I’m a Republican!
Me: In that case, you can give me your clipboard and I’ll toss it in the trash for you on my way back to my room.
Her, blinking, then firming her chin as she hands over the clipboard, starting to look angry: Yes, ma’am. Thank you, ma’am. I think I’m going to have a talk with my sister-in-law.
Me: You do that, kid. Goodnight.
Her: Goodnight, ma’am.

Looks like the Democrats lost at least one poor young dupe that night… it really is much easier to just tell people the truth right off the bat. I realize it’s not their standard operating procedure, but it’s something they ought to consider, don’t you think?

137. daveintexas - November 15, 2007

The truth, it burnses.

138. Megan - November 15, 2007

Explanatory note: I’m pretty sure it was Senator Schumer who sent me a gift basket of raspberry tortes on 11/14/06.

Smartass motherfucker. I’ll get him next year.

139. geoff - November 15, 2007

Good to hear from you, Megan, though the cancer news was completely unwelcome.

Smartass motherfucker. I’ll get him next year.

From your lips to God’s ears.

140. Megan - November 15, 2007

geoff: “though the cancer news was completely unwelcome”

Don’t worry about it, dude. My IQ’s now being measured at over 330, off the scale. It seems I’m the smartest human ever to live. Apparently this type of brain cancer speeds up my thought processes, or at least that’s what they’re saying. 29 national medical institutes across the world are demanding that I turn over my body to them after I die. I’m not unhappy; it lets me do my job better.

Cancer does not define who I am.

141. lauraw - November 15, 2007

He’s always pulling that shit with me.

Frickin’ Schumer.

142. Megan - November 15, 2007

He’s an asshole. I want to hurt him.

143. Michael - November 15, 2007

so I got out of my hot tub, put on my bathrobe

Um, do you think you could add some more details to this part of the story?

144. composmentis - November 15, 2007

My IQ’s now being measured at over 330

May be, but I’ll bet you still can’t pronounce the name Barry correctly. 😉

145. Megan - November 15, 2007

Shut up.

146. daveintexas - November 15, 2007

Senator Schumer? Charles Schumer??

bastard owes me money

147. Megan - November 15, 2007

Michael: “Um, do you think you could add some more details to this part of the story?”

Not really. No one was in there with me and my girls never made it. Two sent their regrets, four were going to come, but two of those had professional assignments and the other two had late-given dates, so I was on my own last night. We’re trying to reschedule for next week.

148. geoff - November 15, 2007

29 national medical institutes across the world are demanding that I turn over my body to them after I die.

Make sure that none of them are dummy institutes created by Michael.

149. Michael - November 15, 2007

bastard owes me money

Yeah, Chuck’s a prick for sure. I used to invite him to my poker games until we all realized he was cheating.

150. Megan - November 16, 2007

geoff: “Make sure that none of them are dummy institutes created by Michael.”

Now I’m going to make sure someone’s going to be in a world of trouble if I’m not cremated within 24 hours.

151. Megan - November 16, 2007

btw, Laura: an admin tells me you’ve been approved at the Pit.

152. The Michael Medical Institute - November 16, 2007

. . . if I’m not cremated within 24 hours.

The Institute only needs about 20 minutes to complete its “examination.”

153. Mr Minority - November 16, 2007

The Institute only needs about 20 minutes to complete its “examination.”

19 1/2 minutes to think about it and only 30 sec for the full “examination”.

154. Michael - November 16, 2007

BTW, I tried registering at the Pit as “Butters” without success. Enjoyed your post of the Coulter article, however.

155. Megan - November 16, 2007

I smacked the admins around again. I don’t know why it’s such a problem to register there. Sorry guys.

And I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the two comments immediately preceding the last.

156. Mr Minority - November 16, 2007

And I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the two comments immediately preceding the last.

But you just did.

157. BrewFan - November 16, 2007

Hi Megan! I’m glad you stopped by. I’m going to pray for your health too, if you don’t mind.

158. Megan - November 16, 2007

God and I don’t like each other very much, so any good word you can put in for me will be gratefully accepted. 🙂

159. The Michael Medical Institute - November 16, 2007

The Institute will pray for your body as well.

160. God - November 16, 2007

I like you Megan. Its Michael that annoys me. Frickin’ Lutherans.

161. lauraw - November 16, 2007

Maybe He was the one behind the raspberry tortes.

162. daveintexas - November 16, 2007

you shoulda tried some of my Texas alfredo goofyhead. Garlic mashed from a press… whole cream (eff that milky substitute)….

and lotsa grinded up cheeses. oh yeah.

I rock.

(get well)

163. God - November 16, 2007

Maybe He was the one behind the raspberry tortes.

No, it was Satan Chuck. Dang! I’m always getting those two confused.

164. Reverend Amish - November 16, 2007

God and I don’t like each other very much, so any good word you can put in for me will be gratefully accepted. 🙂

Dont be so quick to write off the Good Lord, Megan. Did i ever tell you that im an ordained minister? It’s true. Baptisms, marriage ceremonies, you name it.

If you need anybody to pray with you or give you some religious counseling, please feel free to ask. Also – I am a firm believer in ‘faith healing’ so if you would like me to come over an practice some ‘laying on of hands’ just let me know.

Never underestimate the power of prayer…or my penis.

165. Michael - November 16, 2007

Hey Megan, I registered at the Pit again as “Butters” and got an email saying that I was accepted.

Oh happy day! Thank you, Megan, thank you.

I did notice that the Pit required me to accept an etiquette statement which would rule out comments regarding me performing indecencies with your cadaver. Oh well.

166. Michael - November 16, 2007

OK, I’m going to go try to post at the Pit right now. I’ll hit a She-Ra post and see if I get banned.

167. Michael - November 16, 2007

Hey, it worked. I just insulted Megan at the Pit for her trite use of emoticons, and it got published.

This can’t last for long.

168. PJ Mama - November 16, 2007

Thank god Megan is going to start hanging out here. Now i wont be the only one referred to here as “the girl with the Big ‘C’

169. geoff - November 16, 2007

This can’t last for long.

It never does.

170. Cuffy Meigs - November 16, 2007

Had no idea, PJM—missed that revelation. Hope all is well now.

171. Not! PJ Mama - November 16, 2007

NO!

Im just sock puppeting.

PJM doesnt have cancer – that i know of.

She just has a lot of kids, see. “Girl with the big ‘C***’

Just a little joke

Nevermind

172. Joe Camel - November 16, 2007

you know who does have cancer?

Me.

Thats not a hump.

173. Mr Minority - November 16, 2007

“Girl with the big ‘C***’

Does it rhyme with itoris?

174. George Costanza - November 16, 2007

Mulva?

175. Cuffy Meigs - November 16, 2007

Whew! {nonchalantly replacing the PJM Cancer Coin Jar swiped from the 7-11 counter}

176. Tushar D (slowly putting away his shotgun) - November 16, 2007

{nonchalantly replacing the PJM Cancer Coin Jar swiped from the 7-11 counter}

Thats right. Put it back. Nice and slow…

Thank you come again.

177. geoff - November 16, 2007

She just has a lot of kids, see. “Girl with the big ‘C***’

Caesarean?

178. The Amish That Wouldnt Die - November 16, 2007

Well Hell, Everybody asleep or what?

How about a little Red River Rock?

ps Is Megan the angry lesbian chick that used to post at Aces? If so that really sucks. Why cant angry lesbians like Rosie Odonnell get brain cancer? Other than the fact that she probably doesnt have a brain.

It aint right.

Heres a video of Rosie trying to capture her breakfast:

http://www.rosie.com/blog/2007/11/16/the-nut/

179. PJ Hermaphrodite - November 16, 2007

“C***”

Cock.

180. geoff - November 16, 2007

ps Is Megan the angry lesbian chick that used to post at Aces?

Yup. The troll-shredder. And one of the funniest women at Ace’s.

If so that really sucks.

It really does.

181. Megan - November 16, 2007

Y’all are so sweet to me. 🙂

182. Cuffy Meigs - November 16, 2007

How about a little Red River Rock?

Johnny & The Hurricanes got so much poon.

183. Johnny - November 16, 2007

Everything got wetter when the Hurricanes blew into town.

184. Michael - November 17, 2007

Y’all are so sweet to me. 🙂

Girl, you deserve all the sweetness, just for your flaming of bbeck.

Jeez, that was precious.

185. Michael - November 17, 2007

Apocalyptic literature, courtesy of Megan at the Pit:

“How will this end?”
“In fire.”
– Babylon 5, The Coming of Shadows

186. Megan - November 17, 2007

Michael: “Girl, you deserve all the sweetness, just for your flaming of bbeck. Jeez, that was precious.”

Thanks. 🙂 She and I found common cause in cooperating to take down assorted leftists from time to time, but her unhinged defense of Mohammedans and complete ignorance of war theory just sent me over the edge that night.

187. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

Kindly to post a link to Megan’s takedown of bbeck (who was/is bbeck?), please?

Hello, Megan. I don’t think I had seen you before, but I heard a bit about you before. Very good things. I look forward to reading you often.

188. geoff - November 17, 2007

bbeck.

sigh.

189. Bart - November 17, 2007

wtf is the pit?

Is it another place to chit-chat about nothing?

190. Megan - November 17, 2007

Basically, yes.

191. Megan - November 17, 2007

Muslihoon: “Hello, Megan. I don’t think I had seen you before, but I heard a bit about you before. Very good things. I look forward to reading you often.”

I believe you started posting at Ace’s site at just about the time I was easing off; I don’t think we ever really interacted there. Anyway, I have to admit I felt a reflexive antipathy on seeing your post, which I’m sure you’ll understand. But after reading a couple of the posts on your site, and especially after noting your appreciation of Oriana Fallaci, I relented. I look forward to reading more of your writing as well.

192. Megan - November 17, 2007

Muslihoon: “Kindly to post a link to Megan’s takedown of bbeck (who was/is bbeck?), please?”

bbeck was a mostly right-minded girl who had some seriously fucked-up ideas about war theory, and who apparently believes that there is such a thing as “international law.” I think this is the thread Michael was referring to:

http://minx.cc/?post=106628

To quote myself: “I’m done saying ‘pretty please stop killing us.'”

193. daveintexas - November 17, 2007

Oh, was that the one where chicks were fightin over me?

Just another Saturday night. Bass players get all that action.

ok, maybe Les Claypool gets all that action.

194. Megan - November 17, 2007

I think it was bbeck bitching you out when she thought you were complimenting me, and me telling her that she was being an idiot.

The curse of an eidetic memory. I remember even the stupidest shit.

195. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

Thanks so much for the link, Megan!

Thanks for giving me another chance.

196. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

I have to complain. While at a family dinner, there was a flyer for a da’wah conference. (Da’wah means “invitation” in Arabic, and refers to inviting people to Islam and, tangentically, defending Islam.) My father wanted us to go. So, I’m going. He wants us to go to spy on them and see what they are saying, what they’re planning, what tactics they’re going to use, what propaganda they spew. Good reason to go. But still.

Ech.

I went to one of these events a few years ago. I took a lot of willpower and patience to keep from blurting out. Feh. Bunch of Islamist idiots.

I don’t want to go but I think it would be nice to take notes to see what they’re up to.

Can someone give me more points why going to this thing might be good?

197. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

(Another reason I’m going: I had to pay $50 for the both of us. No way I am going to pay those folks and not take advantage.)

198. Michael - November 17, 2007

Can someone give me more points why going to this thing might be good?

Beats me. For 50 bucks, do you get any food?

199. Megan - November 17, 2007

Confession time: I’m partly Arab (well, Persian, sort of, at least, but pre-Mohammedan) on my mother’s side. One quarter. She’s Presbyterian and I’m Catholic, but I have a cousin who’s a Mohammedan. Sort of. Secularly. You know what I mean.

And after my wife left me, I fell in love with her.

So I can identify all too well with what you’re talking about, Muslihoon. Why might going to those things be good? Well… distasteful as it is, you should know the enemy. Even if they are your own family.

200. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

There will be “light refreshments”.

They also provide free babysitting services. I was planning on bringing our widdle baby. That is, our shih tzu.

(Religious Muslims avoid dogs because they are considered ritually impure. So, a dog, in a mosque. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.)

201. lauraw - November 17, 2007

Oh man was that a fun thread.

202. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

The Zoroastrians, well the religious ones, pray five times a day. At roughtly the same time Muslims have their five prayers. And considering that the Zoroastrian convention had been around longer than Islam’s, I wonder where Muhammad got his idea from? Hmmmmmm. I do wonder.

It is sad that Zoroastrianism is a shrinking religion.

I was thinking about inviting my very religious cousin to this event, but I don’t want him to get any more ideas. (Knowing my luck, he just might be there anyway.)

Thanks, Megan.

The sacredest mantra or statement of Zoroastrians:
ashem vohû vahishtem astî
ushtâ astî ushtâ ahmâi
hyat ashâi vahishtâi ashem.

Holiness (Asha) is the best of all good:
it is also happiness.
Happy the man who is holy with perfect holiness!

203. dr4 - November 17, 2007

“Can someone give me more points why going to this thing might be good?”

1) You might meet some chicks

2) All you can eat hummus

3) I hear they have kickass puppet shows at these things:

204. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

These are South Asian fanatics, not Arab fanatics. So, no hummus. But maybe patties, samosas, pakoreh, et cetera.

Honestly, sometimes the Arabs put our extremists to shame.

205. Megan - November 17, 2007

Less than three months before I’m the Amaranth…

206. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

I won’t meet any chicks. Segregation of the sexes is very strictly enforced. Women have their own classes in their locations by their own lecturers. Heaven forbid a man see a woman. Unless a female lecturer is addressing a mixed crowd. In which case the room will be divided with a large divider, men on one side and women on the other, and the lecturer will be more towards the women’s side than on the men’s side, but just enough that the screen behind her can be seen by the men as well.

207. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

Sorry, Megan: I don’t follow. (I can be quite dense.)

208. Megan - November 17, 2007

Nah, you’re not dense. It’s pre-Zoroastrian as well.

209. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

Oooooooooooooooooooooh. Pre-Zoroastrian. That’s ancient.

I’m in awe. *awe*

210. Michael - November 17, 2007

Less than three months before I’m the Amaranth…

The Masonic order?

211. Megan - November 17, 2007

No, the high priestess of Astarte.

212. Muslihoon - November 17, 2007

Good catch, though, Michael.

I’d like to know what the relationship or rivalry is between the Order of the Amaranth and the Order of the Eastern Star. They seem quite similar.

213. Megan - November 17, 2007

“Good catch?”

It’s just the first Google result.

And my thing has nothing to do with any Mason thing.

214. Malignant Amish - November 17, 2007

Are you sure your not a Mason? Because, you act like you have a trowel up your ass a lot of the time.

215. Megan - November 17, 2007

Heh. Not like you’d ever find out, son… there’s no way you could see my ass other than in your dreams.

216. Megan - November 17, 2007

As an aside, I’d like to mention that people like “WickedPinto” and “Amish” remind me a great deal of the poster LIM on the Pit website. They both hold approximately the right opinions, much like bbeck, but they’re also boorish, silly, inarticulate, and generally embarrassing to be associated with – again, much like bbeck.

So, please, do us all a favor and just shut up. You don’t help your cause by making a public nuisance of yourselves.

217. Benign Amish - November 17, 2007

oh come on. Not even one pic? i’ll tell you what – i’ll show you mine, if you show me yours. Deal?

p.s. Hopefully my Hotness wont destroy your relationship with your girlfriend. It’s my blessing…and my curse.

And as far as you and your sweet ass being in my dreams – why not? Whats one more lesbian to a Cast of Thousands.? My fantasies are like one of those old time Hollywood Biblical Epic type movies. just get in line somewhere between the midgets in clown outfits and the german transexual with she/he’s nipples hooked to a car battery. The more the merrier.

218. As an aside, Id like to mention that amish is stuck in the spamfilter. - November 17, 2007

damn i hate this filter.

And also – much like bbeck – i have a fantastic rack. Mine is natural though.

Oh and what the heck is my ’cause’ exactly?

219. Michael - November 17, 2007

And my thing has nothing to do with any Mason thing.

I had a bad feeling that your 90-day reference was ominous.

Your email address refers to Shiva as well.

220. dr4 - November 17, 2007

Your email address refers to Shiva as well.

Maybe she’s just cold?

221. dr4 - November 17, 2007

somebody post sumthin. im bored.

222. Megan - November 17, 2007

Michael: “I had a bad feeling that your 90-day reference was ominous”

It’s a reference to my 30th birthday. Take that as ominous if you like… most people do.

223. Megan - November 17, 2007

“Benign Amish”

Your existence offends me. Die.

224. Prognosis: Amish - November 17, 2007

you first.

225. Bart - November 17, 2007

boorish, silly, inarticulate, and generally embarrassing to be associated with…

Welcome to IB.net, Megan!

You’re one of us.

Yes you are.

226. Bart - November 17, 2007

Everything seems to be a reference to something…

You lead a cryptic life full of symbolism, Megan.

Seriously, what is it about chili that brings out the worst in people?
Somebody delete this thread and ban chili from IB.net.

227. Rosetta - November 17, 2007

Welcome to IB.net, Megan! You’re one of us.

What?!

Bullshit!

Theres only room here for one lesbian here, and THATS M-….uhmmm….nevermind…

Welcome aboard Megan!

228. Megan - November 17, 2007

[smirks] I’m not one of anything.

I’m going to be the Amaranth. Don’t fool yourself into thinking you’re anything like me.

You are not.

229. Bart - November 17, 2007

I think this is the part where we brag about penis length. Oh that’s right, you don’t have one.

Neither do you, Rosetta.

230. Megan - November 17, 2007

I thought Rosetta was a guy.

231. Bart - November 17, 2007

Nope, just a hariy chick.

232. amish invades russia - November 17, 2007

“Don’t fool yourself into thinking you’re anything like me.You are not.”

Bart loves pussy, is completely hairless,and a he’s total bitch.

I’d say you have quite a bit in common actually.

233. Michael - November 17, 2007

I thought Rosetta was a guy.

There is an ongoing debate on that subject.

234. daveintexas - November 17, 2007

booger!

235. Megan - November 17, 2007

Bart: “Nope, just a hariy chick.”
Amish: “and a he’s total bitch”

Unlike either of you, I understand syntax.

236. Michael - November 17, 2007

I’m going to be the Amaranth.

Also known as the Pigweed.

237. Megan - November 17, 2007

As usual, sweetheart, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

238. The Poor Amish are always hit Hardest - November 17, 2007

Unlike either of you, I understand syntax.

Thats where the county charges extra for porn, beer, and cigarette purchases, right?

239. Megan - November 17, 2007

Amish: “Thats where the county charges extra for porn, beer, and cigarette purchases, right?”

I count only 2 errors in this comment. Congratulations; you are improving.

However, I fail to see the point of your question. Was it some sort of childish play on “sin tax?” If so, your attempt at humor was merely tiresome, in addition to inadvertently ironic, as I probably spend more of my disposable income on porn, alcohol, and tobacco than the average citizen.

Try harder, son.

240. Michael - November 17, 2007

Oh well, I have been googling. Aside from the reference to ancient Semitic worship of Astarte (mentioned in the Bible in connection with Phoenicia, BTW) which resonates in Wicca today, Amaranth is also a flowering plant which represents immortality because its flowers do not fade. The common name is Pigweed.

241. hiams? miahs? siham? - November 17, 2007

Holy shit! My spelling sucks? 🙂

dude, you are out of practice or something. Youre supposed to be making jokes, not just calling me childish.

And im over twice your age so calling me ‘son’ is kinda silly.

You can just call me ‘Daddy.’

242. Megan - November 17, 2007

Correct, Michael. And as the high priestess, I will be considered to be immortal. Or at least my words shall. Or my tongue. Or my eyes, or both. It’s somewhat unclear.

Whichever. It’s quite amusing,for obvious reasons.

243. Megan - November 17, 2007

“And im over twice your age so calling me ’son’ is kinda silly.”

It’s not really remarkable for me to be calling a 60 year-old “son.” I’ve been doing that since I was 12.

“You can just call me ‘Daddy.’”

In your dreams… son.

244. Michael - November 17, 2007

I will be considered to be immortal. Or at least my words shall. Or my tongue. Or my eyes, or both.

I vote for your tongue which, when amorously deployed, is no doubt an awesome instrument. You will note that the Pigweed has appropriately tongue-shaped foliage.

245. Megan - November 17, 2007

[distastefully] You are required to stop using that word as of this moment.

246. daveintexas - November 17, 2007

Something about this exchange is confusing me.

247. amish speaks texanese - November 17, 2007

Something about this exchange is confusing me.

Amishs handy Cliff Notes:

Megan = Total Bitch
Michael = Total Perv
Amish = Total Pimp

Total = 8 Bowls of that ‘other’ brand

248. Megan - November 17, 2007

A 60 year-old calling himself a “pimp?”

I think that should be designated “totally sad.”

249. amish gives some friendly advice to the husky lesbian - November 17, 2007

I think that should be designated “totally sad.”

That was better. Your getting closer to a good burn. You should have went with:

A 60 year old man describing himself as a “Total Pimp?” Im guessing it’s more like “Totally Limp.”

See where im going there? Keep practicing. By the time your my age, you ought to have it. Unless your dead.

250. Megan - November 17, 2007

Dave: “Something about this exchange is confusing me”

Eh, most of it is just boring me. Par for the course when Amish is involved.

251. Megan - November 17, 2007

Amish: “See where im going there?”

Honestly? I’m trying not to.

“Keep practicing. By the time your my age, you ought to have it. Unless your dead.”

We all have hopes, baby. We all have hopes.

252. amish in the ruff - November 17, 2007

“Par for the course when Amish is involved.”

Damn. Lesbians really go love golf dont they?

253. Megan - November 17, 2007

[amuses herself by making her puppy stop gnawing on a bone, come up to her chair, sit, and then drop the bone in front of her when she snaps her fingers and clenches her fist] …good dog. Good dog. See how I’m training Amish? You’ll learn too.

254. amish is a "rough" diver - November 17, 2007

I screwed up my golf name. And i misspelled it. Fuck it. Golf sucks.

255. daveintexas - November 17, 2007

the OSU – Michigan game was a borefest.

256. Megan - November 17, 2007

Please. Like Ohio can ever be interesting.

Or anything at all coming out of Michigan, for that matter.

257. daveintexas - November 17, 2007

au contraire… Ohio is not dull.

In my limited experience.

258. Michael - November 17, 2007

Now wait just a minute, Pigweed. Gerry Ford came from Michigan.

Huh? What about that?

259. John F Kerry - November 17, 2007

Like Ohio can ever be interesting.

If half the people at an OSU football game voted for me in 2004, I’d be president now.

And if my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle…Uncle Rosetta.

260. Cathy - November 17, 2007

…was a borefest

Bore a hole right into my heart. I was in pain… bored too I have to admit.

261. Megan - November 17, 2007

Ohio football? Not dull?

Pardon me while I laugh my nonexistent ass off.

262. Cathy - November 17, 2007

Dave
Ohio is dull.

Just sayin “Ohio” is like a yawn.

263. Cathy - November 17, 2007

Or anything at all coming out of Michigan, for that matter.

Megan, Michael and I came out of Michigan back in 1976.

264. Megan - November 17, 2007

Are you coming on to me, dear?

265. Megan - November 17, 2007

Not that I’m necessarily opposed to the idea…

266. amish needs a nap - November 17, 2007

i just came

267. Megan - November 17, 2007

Be silent, old man.

268. Michael - November 17, 2007

Nah, Cathy like Julio the pool boy.

269. daveintexas - November 17, 2007

I’m just talking about mine own personal experiences now… anecdotal stuff. In 86 I got to work at Wright-Pat… and visited one of the best air museums in the western world.

Ohio’s ok.

270. Cathy - November 17, 2007

I don’t think I’m coming on to you, Megan.

I’m just bored and engaging in chat. Remember. I live in Ohio.

271. Megan - November 17, 2007

Michael: “Nah, Cathy like Julio the pool boy.”

Leave me my fantasies.

272. Megan - November 17, 2007

Cathy: “I don’t think I’m coming on to you, Megan.”

Leave me my fantasies.

273. amish naked on a bearskin rug - November 17, 2007

Leave me my fantasies.

Well…hello there.

274. Megan - November 17, 2007

[eyes naked, wrinkled sexagenarian narrowly]

Rose? Bring me my flamethrower.

275. Cathy - November 17, 2007

Fantasies, Ok. Megan, no skin off my tush.

276. Rose - November 17, 2007

Aaargh! His carpet does match his curtains – gray and wrinkled

Hear ya go Pigweed.

hands over flamethrower

277. Cathy - November 17, 2007

Dave, I haven’t been to that air museum but I heard good things. You also say good stuff, so I wanna go and see it. That’s not far from here…maybe an hour.

Ok, Dave…Ohio is ok.
But it won’t ever hold a candle to Texas, in my book.

278. Oklahoma - November 17, 2007

Ohio is ok.

Excuse me?

279. Megan - November 17, 2007

Rose is my maid. She doesn’t post on this site. Actually, she’s making pomegranate juice for me right now.

And Cathy is right. There is not one aspect in which Ohio objectively beats Texas.

280. Ohio - November 17, 2007

There is not one aspect in which Ohio objectively beats Texas.

Less Texans.

FTW

281. Cathy - November 17, 2007

Well, Megan, Ohio does have one thing that Texas doesn’t…
Concrete Corn

282. Megan - November 17, 2007

A Texan might have said “fewer,” and been grammatically correct.

283. Megan - November 17, 2007

Cathy: “Well, Megan, Ohio does have one thing that Texas doesn’t…
Concrete Corn”

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

284. Concrete Orville Redenbacher - November 17, 2007

Cathy: “Well, Megan, Ohio does have one thing that Texas doesn’t…
Concrete Corn”

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

Where is your God now?

285. Cathy - November 17, 2007

…and on the other side of town we have the Dancing Bunnies

286. Megan - November 17, 2007

287. Black Rabbit of Inle - November 17, 2007

ok…even i’m a little creeped out by those things.

288. geoff - November 17, 2007

I’m saddened to announce that my fiendish plans of trying to scam a trip to the IB superbowl party are for naught. Turns out my wife already had dibs on that weekend for her family reunion in Florida. I’ll probably be in Dayton in early April, though.

289. Cathy - November 17, 2007

Creepy wabbits stand about 12 feet tall, I think.

290. Ohio - November 17, 2007

“I’ll probably be in Dayton in early April, though.{”

Just in time to help harvest the concrete corn.

291. Cathy - November 17, 2007

Sorry to hear that, Geoff. But happy to hear about the Dayton thing in April. Keep us posted.

Got any interest in the air museum? I like field trips. (Or do we call ’em “road trips” now that we’re not in elementary school…?)

292. geoff - November 17, 2007

Got any interest in the air museum?

I’ve been there many a time, but not in the last 7 years, so I’m always up for a trip to the air museum.

293. Chuck Jones - November 17, 2007

Help us Elmer Fudd. Youre our only hope:

http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1265835&fr=moz2

294. dr4 - November 17, 2007

damnit. im getting bored. somebody entertain me.

295. dr4 - November 17, 2007

I downloaded some music today.

I got Dwight Yoakams Buck Owens Tribute album. Its good.

I got a couple of albums of the Yoshida Brothers albums. They are the guys that do the song from the Nintendo Wii commercial. Not too good. Sort of a ‘lounge’ music sound on a lot of tracks.The remixes and the more traditional sounding songs are ok though.

Then i got 8 Chris Isaak albums, which are excellent. Very underrated singer. Extremely depressing songs.

Picked up a Bonnie Raitt boot from 72 for my barber.

Got a Stones concert from 81 with excellent sound but the performance is lacking. They sucked live after 68 or so.

And finally i found a Beatfarmers show from 88 thats pretty good if youre into that sort of thing.

296. Bart - November 17, 2007

Chris Isaak had a pretty good tv show for a while.

I wonder if it’s on DVD or youtube…

297. Megan - November 18, 2007

After reviewing that entire thread, I felt so ashamed of my gender that I had to apologize for bbeck’s behavior.

298. Retired Geezer - November 18, 2007

Got any interest in the air museum? I like field trips.

How far away is it from the IBSBP?

I haven’t been to the McMinnville, Washington, museum but I hear it’s pretty awesome.

299. Megan - November 18, 2007

A friend of mine just told me he installed Messenger just to talk to me. How sweet is that? I’m melting here.

300. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

I just read that thread myself. It’s always nice to see bbeck get a smackdown.

I didn’t realize we were signatories to the 4th convention as well. I thought we had refused to sign that one. I must have been thinking of that addition in the ’70s.

And seriously, how can anyone possibly think that we are obligated to follow the conventions against enemies who aren’t signatories and who don’t even approach compliance? If that’s what it really says (I’m too tired to read it and find out), then we should withdraw.

301. amish hits the hay - November 18, 2007

I though bbeck was yalls friend?

Hello Geezer – where ya been?

Im tired. Goin to bed. Heres some sleepy music. Cowboy Junkies doing Blue Moon Revisited:

Its good.

Night folks.

302. Megan - November 18, 2007

I like bbeck, she just pushes it too far sometimes. And she doesn’t really understand real world law.

BTW – if anyone plays Scrabble on Wordbiz, look me up. I’m there as “Adora.”

303. Bart - November 18, 2007

I like bbeck. She’s a ship-jumper, though.

bbeck sat out last election and helped the dems win/steal control of Congress. But of course the idiots at AoS keep blaming the Christian Right for the loss. Those a-holes are in denial that it was they, the moderate/libertarian/weak-kneed Republican wing of the GOP, who crapped out during the last election.

304. Bart - November 18, 2007

I’m there as “Adora.”

In reference to Derwood’s mother-in-law on Bewitched.

305. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

Yeah, um, no. I got really tired of her method of debating, which consists of declaring victory and then walking away, and I also got really tired of her little “be nice to me and I will post a picture of my rack” games. There’s something wrong with someone who needs self-affirmation from a bunch of dorks on the Internet.

306. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

hmm, looks like I am getting cranky. I think I better go to bed.

307. Megan - November 18, 2007

Mrs Peel: “I didn’t realize we were signatories to the 4th convention as well. I thought we had refused to sign that one. I must have been thinking of that addition in the ’70s.

And seriously, how can anyone possibly think that we are obligated to follow the conventions against enemies who aren’t signatories and who don’t even approach compliance? If that’s what it really says (I’m too tired to read it and find out), then we should withdraw.”

We did sign it; it just doesn’t say what a lot of people (including bbeck) think it says.

308. Megan - November 18, 2007

Mrs Peel: You’ll get no argument from me.

309. Megan - November 18, 2007

Bart: “In reference to Derwood’s mother-in-law on Bewitched.”

No, in reference to She-Ra’s alternate identity in the ’80s cartoon.

310. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

Yeah, I just looked it up. I was thinking of Protocol I, which we signed but did not ratify due to the unlawful combatant issue.

Ok, I really have to go to bed before I start researching this shit. One time I was up until like 2 on a work night researching constitutional law because I was trying to figure out why the pro-abortion side of the most recent partial birth abortion ban case (Stenberg v. Carhart?) had gone with as-applied instead of facial. Seems pretty evident to me that Justice Thomas would have agreed to strike down the ban on the grounds of his narrow reading of the Commerce Clause, so they would have won, and I couldn’t figure why they didn’t go that way. (I eventually found out that it was because that narrow reading would also have struck down a bunch of pro-abortion rulings, so they didn’t want to risk that.)

That reminds me, I’ve been meaning to go to B&N or Borders and buy both Justice Thomas’s autobiography and Bolton’s book, because I do want to read them and because I will enjoy seeing the look on the clerk’s face. Heh heh heh.

going to bed now. night.

311. Megan - November 18, 2007

Sweet dreams, ma’am.

312. Megan - November 18, 2007

And I’ll be glad to answer any other questions you may have, ma’am. Just ask whatever you will, and God bless.

313. Muslihoon - November 18, 2007

1. There was food. Chicken tikka pieces with a few pieces of lettuce, all rolled in a naan. Not very good. And chips. And baklava. (I love baklava: Dad didn’t want to eat his so I ate his as well.) They had soft drinks but I don’t drink them. Dad had one, and a coffee. (Hey, for $25 each, might as well. I don’t want them to have money.) Good thing was that all of this was free.

2. The good thing about going with Dad was that we provided each other support and company as practically everyone went to pray. Neither of us felt like joining them. Similarly, neither he nor I responded with the usual responses that occurs in Muslim events (repeating the blessing after Muhammad’s name, repeating the salutory blessing, saying “Allahu akbar” when someone shouts “takbir”). We were rebels. Then again, we went to spy on the people rather than learn from them.

3. The speakers were generally reasonable. The second-to-last one was quite contradictory, passionate, and inflammatory. Feh.

4. This point is one that has occupied my mind the moment I realized it. Now, some background: Sayyid Qutb is considered one of the founding fathers of the extremist faction of Islam. One of his major books is called “Milestones” in English. This is the book, it is said, that converted Usama bin Ladin to become a mujahid (one who fights jihad) of the extremist sort. In any case, practically throughout Islam, Sayyid Qutb is highly regarded and his works considered authoritative and basic. (Which is scary, considering what Qutb was promoting.) The organization that conducted this conference, that conducts so many awareness programs of Islam, that is trying to teach America about Islam with the goal of converting Americans to Islam: this group was selling “Milestones” on their Islamic propagation literature table. For an $8 suggested donation. Not good. Not good at all.

Personally, having that book out so publicly was stupid. No organization that values its existence in America would so publicly offer that book. That book has been instrumental in persuading countless Muslims to become extremists. What if the FBI had a man there? Carrying such pro-terrorist material is not wise.

And then they cry about profiling and persecution and bigotry. Feh.

A more detailed report on my blog, hopefully within a day.

314. Muslihoon - November 18, 2007

Megan: is your Persian cousin a Muslim? If so, is she a Shiite?

315. Megan - November 18, 2007

She is a Mohammedan, yes. And no, she’s a Sunni.

316. Megan - November 18, 2007

Muslihoon: you on Messenger? Send me a message if so.

317. Muslihoon - November 18, 2007

Y! Messenger, yes?

318. daveintexas - November 18, 2007

bbeck sat out last election and helped the dems win/steal control of Congress.

She threatened it, but later relented and did vote.

Amazes me given the history of mid-terms how tetchy people got over that one.

Not you Bart, just people over all. Even at AoS, but it did my heart a world of good to watch them dust themselves off and make hay with the “Thanks Nancy!” thread.

319. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

She voted for an also-ran knowing he wouldn’t win, and then came to AOSHQ and taunted everyone, as I recall. (I didn’t vote in my congressional race, either, but that’s because my options were a Democrat and He Who Must Not Be Named.) The more fool she. My endometrium was transmogrified into liquid 24-carat gold!

…now how do I report that on my 1040?

Any questions at all, Megan? Ok. Bikinis or thongs?

(I’m kidding, of course. Not at all interested in anyone’s underwear other than the boy’s.)

Gonna go dry my hair and work on math. Catch y’all on the flip side.

320. amishbeck - November 18, 2007

I didnt vote. im not voting for president this year either if Fred! or Hunter isnt nominated.

321. Bart - November 18, 2007

FYI: I use the name Bart in reference to the name on my birth certificate.

322. Bart - November 18, 2007

Amazes me given the history of mid-terms how tetchy people got over that one.

What bothers me the most is the blame put upon the Christian Conservatives for losing the election — it’s a falsehood. These moderates in the GOP are trying to muzzle the Christian Conservatives and pick a moderate Democrat to win the nomination because they are gullible and can’t take the heat from the MSM for holding traditional conservative values.

Just watch how the msm toys with our idiots in the GOP. Right now they’ve done a good job painting Mitt Romney as a liberal flip-flopper. When Romney gets the nomination he’ll quickly become a polarizing extreme rightwinger and the moderates and liberatarians will be wetting their britches worrying about how we should have nominated someone less conservative.

323. Bart - November 18, 2007

Shit, that looks disjointed.

Okay, cliff notes: Moderates in the GOP are taking their cues from the MSM and marginalizing the Christian Conservatives so a some moderate such as Rudy or McCain gets the nomination and loses the general election. They’re being bamboozled into pissing off the Religious Right and dividing the party.

324. Megan - November 18, 2007

Eh. I’m a Christian conservative, and I’d sooner support Rudy than a complete fucking moron like Fred. Or an asshole like McCain.

325. Megan - November 18, 2007

Mrs Peel: “Bikinis or thongs?”

Neither. Mid-thigh briefs.

I don’t do girly stuff well. [completely ignores the fact that she’s still lounging around in her My Little Pony PJs]

326. Michael - November 18, 2007

which consists of declaring victory and then walking away

But she didn’t walk away. She would keep explaining how it was beneath her to offer a serious response, thus dismissing any comments pointing to the flaws in her position.

327. dr4 - November 18, 2007

The whole “Blame the midterms on the Christian Right” thing is stupid. People (like me) just got tired of of the corrupt and hopelessly inept Republicans and werent willing to fight for them.

People like Allah constantly bitching about the religious people who make the up the base of the party are just shooting themselves in the foot. On the other hand, christians lining up behind huckabee just because every other word out of his mouth is ‘jesus’ are also retarded.

Im not going to vote for someone just because they are – slightly – less liberal than the democratic opposition. Its a slippery slope. Every election, the Republican candidate gets more and more liberal. Fuck that.

How the Hell is Rudy Giuliani the frontrunner for the Republican nomination? He’s a centrist democrat at best anywhere outside of New York.

“When Romney gets the nomination he’ll quickly become a polarizing extreme rightwinger”

yeah i wish. Mitts a flip flopper. I dont think the media has actually played that issue up enough with him actually. I look at him and i see John Kerry. He just doesnt seem honest. And his health care plan is socialism plain and simple.

McCain has been sticking his thumb in the eye of conservatives for years. Screw him.

I dont know much about Hunter, but what i have seen i have liked. His debate performances havent been exactly inspired though. And he hasnt done much so far in the polls.

So that leaves me with Fred. He seems pretty conservative. He’s likable. Not too much of a flip flopper as far as politicians go. And he certainly isnt a nanny stater.

328. dr4 - November 18, 2007

so who are the rest of yall supporting?

329. Megan - November 18, 2007

Rudy’s my guy. I’ll put up with a lot from a man I can actually trust to exterminate Mohammedan evil.

Huckabee’s only mildly less annoying than Fred. Ann Coulter gets it right on those two fuckheads:

“Conservatives unhappy with our Republican presidential candidates seem to be drifting aimlessly toward Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee in the misguided belief that these candidates are more conservative than Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney. This is like breaking up with Bobby Brown so you can date Phil Spector.

On illegal immigration, Huckabee makes George Bush sound like Tom Tancredo. He has compared illegal aliens to slaves brought here in chains from Africa, saying, “I think frankly the Lord is giving us a second chance to do better than we did before.”

Toward that end, when an Arkansas legislator introduced a bill that would prevent illegal aliens from voting and receiving state benefits, Huckabee denounced the bill, saying it would rile up “those who are racist and bigots.”

He also made the insane point that companies like Toyota would not invest in Arkansas if the state didn’t allow non-citizens to vote because it would “send the message that, essentially, ‘If you don’t look like us, talk like us and speak like us, we don’t want you.'”

Like all the (other) Democratic candidates for president, he supports a federal law to ban smoking — unless you’re an illegal alien smoking at a Toyota plant…

In 1999, Sen. Fred Thompson joined legal giants like Sens. Jim Jeffords, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins to vote against removing Bill Clinton from office for perjury.

Thompson, whom President Nixon once called “dumb as hell,” claimed to have carefully studied the Constitution and determined that perjury by the president of the United States did not constitute “high crimes and misdemeanors.” He must have been looking at one of those living, breathing Constitutions we’ve heard so much about…

[Clinton] was impeached for excesses that also happen to be felonies. For a nation of laws, there are no more serious offenses than perjury and obstruction of justice.

The entire Supreme Court — including the justices Clinton appointed — boycotted Clinton’s State of the Union address after his impeachment trial. That’s what they thought of crimes that attack the legal system…

But, as The New York Times recently said, Thompson “agonized over what he saw as two ‘bad choices.'”

What bad choices? Punishing a multiple felon or not punishing him? This wasn’t exactly a job for King Solomon, pal.

The Times reported that calls from Thompson’s Tennessee constituents showed that they “overwhelmingly favored removing President Bill Clinton from office.” So Thompson could either: (1) Follow the Constitution and make his constituents happy or, (2) disregard the Constitution and make his Hollywood friends happy.

Only a handful of Republicans voted against all law and reason to keep Clinton in office, and only one of them was from Tennessee.

This isn’t the time to be toying with any Republican who had a Clinton in his sights and ended up shooting himself in the foot. If you’re bored with our top candidates, go see a slasher movie. Don’t take it out on a presidential election.”
– Fred Sawyer and Huckabee Finn

These dimwits are supposed to be the “real Republicans?” Thanks but no thanks.

You two! OUT of the primaries! NOW!

And NO, John, you CAN’T bring your walker into the shallow end… hey, Ron! STOP PISSING IN THE KIDDIE POOL. Get out and DON’T come back!

330. Megan - November 18, 2007

Michael: “But she didn’t walk away. She would keep explaining how it was beneath her to offer a serious response, thus dismissing any comments pointing to the flaws in her position.”

I’ll say one thing for her, she certainly has a lot of time on her hands. Her entire approach to debate seems to consist of one simple tactic – droning on at such length, and with so much tedium and pomposity, that anyone who disagrees eventually just gets bored to tears and can’t be bothered to respond.

331. dr4 - November 18, 2007

Fred Thompson voted to impeach Clinton for obstruction of justice.

The perjury charge was defeated 55 – 45. You need 67 for impeachment. The one Fred voted for was defeated 50 – 50.

So it isnt exactly fair to say that Fred was trying to help Clinton or anything.

332. dr4 - November 18, 2007

Rudys too weak on immigration for me. And his second amendment position is awful.

333. Michael - November 18, 2007

The entire Supreme Court — including the justices Clinton appointed — boycotted Clinton’s State of the Union address . . .

Huh, I did not know that — or Thompson’s role in the fiasco.

Say, did someone ping me with Windows Messenger this afternoon? A message popped up on my monitor saying that Firefox did not recognize a “.wmsgr” file because it is not associated with a program. I have Yahoo! Messenger, but I guess I don’t have WM. How do I download and/or plug it into Firefox?

334. daveintexas - November 18, 2007

I sure do like pecan pie.

335. dr4 - November 18, 2007

I sure do like pecan pie.

Me too. When i was a kid my mother would make a pecan pie without any pecans in it. Called it a Syrup Pie. It was actually pretty good.

336. Cathy - November 18, 2007

so who are the rest of yall supporting?

No single candidate seems to really have it all, but I’m thinking Fred or Rudy, because they both seem to be the only ones who support
1) unobtrusive government, 2) domestic reliance on free markets, and 3) taxes that are as low and uncomplicated as reasonably possible.

I’m pro-life and am concerned about illegal immigration, but those challenges have no easy solutions, no matter where one stands on those issues.

Voting for someone who demonstrates integrity and leadership and shares my fundamental priorities and values seems much more important than any individual bargaining chip.

I’m still reading, researching, and willing to listen…

337. Megan - November 18, 2007

dr4: “Rudys too weak on immigration for me.”

I agree his history is horrible on that issue, but his current position, I can accept.

“And his second amendment position is awful.”

Well, again, history bad, position… it’s standard federalist. I don’t really agree with it, but he’s flat-out stated that he’s not interested in taking guns away from people. Now whether you believe him or not is one thing, but I’m willing to go along with it for the nonce.

All that really matters to me is that he recognizes Mohammedanism for the evil that it is, and he’s more than willing to blow the fucking shit out of whatever he has to to eradicate it.

338. Megan - November 18, 2007

Michael: “Say, did someone ping me with Windows Messenger this afternoon?”

Wasn’t me. The one I use can be found here, though –

http://get.live.com/messenger/overview

339. daveintexas - November 18, 2007

pecan pie… mmm mmm mmm!

340. Cathy - November 18, 2007

Pecan pie is my favorite pie.

I’ll be making one this week AND also for sure for the IBSBP, Dave.

341. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

Y’all are right. What I really meant was walking away from any actual debate. She does stay in the thread and do exactly what Michael said.

I will say that she did contribute funny and interesting comments. Unfortunately, that would last only until she either got into an argument with someone (in which case she would act exactly like she did in that thread, and I can’t count how many of those I’ve seen), or until the thread got onto the topic of her rack. Granted, that’s really the guys’ fault, not hers, but still.

I’m actually fairly happy with the major non-McCain candidates. I know Rudy is a big social liberal, but honestly, I don’t care about that right now. I’m more worried about the people trying to kill us. We can sort out abortion after we sort out the millions of people who want to murder us all for the crime of existing.

342. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

How do you guys pronounce “pecan,” and where are you from? I ran across some bizarre article on the pronunciation of “pecan” the other day, in which people who claimed to be Southerners said that they pronounced it PEE-can, which I find absolutely preposterous. I’ve lived in Texas my whole life, and we pronounce it peh-KAHN. (Actually, I say “b’KAHN.”) If anyone said “PEE-can” around here, we would giggle hysterically.

343. daveintexas - November 18, 2007

pee’schwan

344. dr4 - November 18, 2007

i dont like McCain, but other than his terrible(but understandable) ideas concerning Gitmo, i think he would be the best candidate regarding the WOT. I just cant help but think he would have went batshit crazy on the Mideast if 9/11 had happened on his watch.

Too bad he’s spent the last 8 years pissing on his base.

345. Amish T. Kirk - November 18, 2007

peh-KAHN!

346. Megan - November 18, 2007

Same as Amish and Mrs Peel. I’m jes’ a li’l Southern girl from Virginia, though I’ve lived in like a zillion countries. (Career World Bank parents. What can you do?)

347. Megan - November 18, 2007

And I’ve never heard anyone say “PEE-can” either. But if I did, I think my reaction would be to snap open my parasol in his face, not giggle. That would frighten me.

348. Mr Minority - November 18, 2007

Mrs Peel,
The pronunciation of pecan, is what separates those that from around here from those that ain’t.

Other strange names Texans pronounce (these are town names around Austin):

Buda – Bewh-da
Manor – May-nor
Groene – Green
Boerne – Ber-ney

349. dr4 - November 18, 2007

Ive heard it in movies and stuff when peopel are doing terrible southern accents. i can picture John Edwards saying it that way for some reason.

350. Megan - November 18, 2007

dr4 –

Now that you mention it, so can I.

351. Retired Geezer - November 18, 2007

I like Teh Fred.

I don’t think his vote against Clinton’s impeachment was that cut and dried. IIRC Patterico had a post about it also.

352. Megan - November 18, 2007

Maybe not, but he is a total fool.

353. hooked on amish - November 18, 2007

How else would you pronounce “Buda”?

Around here we have:

Lebanon – Lebnun
Lancaster – Lankster
Lafayette – LaFAYut

I also pronounce almost every word that ends in an “O” with an “A”

Like

Camaro, becomes Camara

I defrost a chicken. I turn my car heater to DEE-frost though.

I ‘reckon’ a lot. Im also ‘fixin’ to do stuff too.

354. I pity the amish - November 18, 2007

Maybe not, but he is a total fool.

No man with with a wife with tits that spectacular is a fool.

Even Einsteins wife only had a C Cup.

Go Fred!

355. daveintexas - November 18, 2007

sheee-itt

356. Megan - November 18, 2007

Jack Ryan was married to Jeri Lynn. And she had even more spectacular tits.

Isn’t he a fool? I think the verdict of history is quite clear on that score.

357. Megan - November 18, 2007

For the archives, another exchange with our indefatigable bbeck.

[pulled per lauraw’s request, d in t]

Lord, I don’t know why I bothered back then.

358. Megan - November 18, 2007

I never say “fixin’,” although I do admit I say “reckon” occasionally.

359. amish answers sobek - November 18, 2007

He got divorced from Jeri Ryan – thats what makes him a fool.

I also say “ye” occasionally instead of ‘you’ and ‘your.’

“I reckon im fixin to kick ye ass all thuh way back to LaFAYut if ye dont get yer Xamara off that chicken i just DEE-frosted.”

360. amish forgot to change his name. - November 18, 2007

and i misspelled a bunch of shit including “Camaro.”

361. Megan - November 18, 2007

Actually, he tried to get her to do perverted shit and *she* divorced *him.*

362. Bart - November 18, 2007

Wickedpinto is our resident expert on the Jack & Jeri Ryan scandal. The way he says it, it was Jeri who was the perv, not Jack.

363. Megan - November 18, 2007

But Wickedpinto’s a mouth-breathing moron.

364. Megan - November 18, 2007

Also, I love Jeri Ryan, so I flatly refuse to believe anything bad about her.

365. geoff - November 18, 2007

I was sorry to see bbeck get embroiled in so many pissing contests with many staunch regulars. I liked her and enjoyed her comments, and I thought that she was very patient with AoSHQ’s obsession with her, well, you know. I know she started it, but AoSHQ would never let it end.

But Wickedpinto’s a mouth-breathing moron.

He’s actually a pretty bright guy.

366. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

Boerne is probably pronounced that way because of the Germans who settled there.

In Houston, there is a street called “San Felipe,” and I swear to you that every single local calls it “San Fuh-LEEP-ee.” I have never heard anyone say “San FEH-lih-pay.”

My sister’s being induced tomorrow morning.

367. geoff - November 18, 2007

It’s like Buena Vista in Colorado, which is known as Byuna Vista.

368. Bart - November 18, 2007

Or Nevada being pronounced Nah-Vatta by the locals.

Or Pordo Reeko. What the fuck is that all about.

Megan would grow to love Wicked if she spent enough time around him just like we did.

369. Megan - November 18, 2007

geoff: “He’s actually a pretty bright guy.”

Maybe, but I haven’t seen any evidence of that. And I’m hardly a prude; I flirt with perfect strangers at the drop of a hat, but the way he turns EVERY FUCKING THREAD HE SHOWS UP IN into pornographic tales about his sexual exploits gets pretty fucking old pretty fucking fast.

Also, the illiterate way he writes pisses me off. It’s called English, motherfucker… take a fucking class.

370. Megan - November 18, 2007

geoff: “I was sorry to see bbeck get embroiled in so many pissing contests with many staunch regulars. I liked her and enjoyed her comments, and I thought that she was very patient with AoSHQ’s obsession with her, well, you know. I know she started it, but AoSHQ would never let it end.”

Strange though it may seem to some, I agree. I really had no problem with bbeck, or the whole running joke about her big breasts. (I’m sure that last part surprises no one.) It was just that she never seemed to know when to let something go.

It wasn’t just me either. Many, many people found occasion to tear into her over the years.

371. geoff - November 18, 2007

Also, the illiterate way he writes pisses me off. It’s called English, motherfucker… take a fucking class.

I think that was a side effect of posting while hammered, which used to be his signature MO. When he started hanging out here and blogging at mesablue’s site, he seemed to straighten up quite a bit.

And now he’s on hiatus as he focuses on getting his real world act together. We’re all hoping things work out for him.

372. Megan - November 18, 2007

Eh. I post all the time when I’m smashed too, but you’ll never see me typing like a *totally* illiterate James Joyce.

373. geoff - November 18, 2007

Many, many people found occasion to tear into her over the years.

Yeah, I know.

On a side but related note, I was disappointed to see Jack M. start in on RWS at AoSHQ the other week. I thought he thoroughly demeaned himself. Steve_in_HB had a similar run-in with RWS here a year ago, which was unfortunate but at least was a commenter-on-commenter battle, not a blogger-on-regular battle.

374. geoff - November 18, 2007

I post all the time when I’m smashed too…

Speaking of which, I think some Bass Ales are calling my name. A few of those and some anime ought to go down very smoothly this evening.

Have a good night, everybody.

375. Megan - November 18, 2007

RWS? But she’s so completely inoffensive and thoroughly charming. Why the hell would anyone go off on her? I love her.

376. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

WP is an acquired taste. And I’d agree that he’s actually pretty bright.

Oh right, the paper I’m supposed to be writing. Entschuldigungen Sie mir bitte!

377. daveintexas - November 18, 2007

Weekend at Boerne’s

378. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

The Jack M one is here.

379. Lipstick - November 18, 2007

I like cinnamon rolls.

380. Bart - November 18, 2007

I was disappointed to see Jack M. start in on RWS at AoSHQ the other week.

O’rly?
I did not know that.

RWS is an easy target for keyboard warrior eunichs such as Jack M.

381. Bart - November 18, 2007

Okay, just skimming through that thread…looks like Penn State Marine is a stand-up guy.

JackM, that little pussy, threatened to ban Rho for pretty much exactly the type of comments made by Jack himself in that thread.

382. Bart - November 18, 2007

Okay, just finished reading the comments. Jack M should be embarrassed and I’m disappointed that more people didn’t speak up against Jack.

Funny, because the same people who were silent or indifferent had no problem giving me or Amish shit over our comments. Not cool, not cool at all.

383. Retired Geezer - November 18, 2007

In Idaho: The town of Kuna is pronounced Cue-nah.

Normally I write my name as Geeezer but the second ‘e’ is silent.

Just sayin’.

384. lauraw - November 18, 2007

Michael, could you please remove Megan’s link on #357?

It has my old private work email and I’d rather not have it out here.

385. Mr Minority - November 18, 2007

I like cinnamon rolls.

Warmed up, with butter dripping along the top and sides.

It not suprizing that there aren’t more shake-ups at AoS, with the diverse personalities that comment over there.

386. Megan - November 18, 2007

Laura: “Michael, could you please remove Megan’s link on #357?”

Sorry about that, girlfriend. I wouldn’t have linked to the thread if it had occurred to me; I remember you mentioned that once earlier. Just didn’t pop into my head.

Honest mistake. Sorry again.

387. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

I’m procrastinating instead of working on my paper, so I found the original steve_in_hb/RWS beatdowns. Here and here.

Cinnamon rolls are teh awesome. Especially with hot chocolate.

388. Mr Minority - November 18, 2007

Cinnamon rolls are teh awesome.

There is a place here in DS named Gigis that make Cinnamon rolls the size of dinner plates. Fresh every day.

Thank God I just drive passed it, otherwise I wold weigh over 200 lbs.

Instead, I have a freshly made Chorizo, Egg, Potato and Cheese Breakfast Taco every morning at the little Mexican grill.

389. lauraw - November 18, 2007

Nah, how would it possibly have occurred to you, toots? I didn’t think of it until I scrolled over my name to check.

I thought (hoped) that addy was lost to the old haloscan format long ago.

390. Lipstick - November 18, 2007

mmm, with butter AND hot chocolate.

Mr. LS just stopped by and gave me a bite of a Klondike Bar with Heath crunchies on it.

391. lauraw - November 18, 2007

I think women have to be a little more careful with tone on the internet than men do. It’s just one of those things.

You can say the same exact thing, but it comes across very differently with a female’s name attached.

392. daveintexas - November 18, 2007

Oh what’s that supposed to mean?? Huh? Huh?

*giggles to my own self*

393. BrewFan - November 18, 2007

lauraw, I think you need to get laid.*

*Nope. Sounds just as bad coming from a man 🙂

394. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

lauraw’s right, as usual. I think it might go both ways depending on the comment itself, though. A man-to-woman insult may elicit attack, while a woman-to-woman insult will probably elicit only catfight jokes.

And if anyone says I need to get laid, I’m not about to argue with you…

395. Megan - November 18, 2007

Laura’s always right.

396. Megan - November 18, 2007

Mrs Peel: “And if anyone says I need to get laid, I’m not about to argue with you…”

Just say when, where, and how. I am at your service, ma’am. [salutes]

397. BrewFan - November 18, 2007

Speaking of getting laid, how about those Packers! Phoenix here we come!

398. lauraw - November 18, 2007

Mrs. Peel, have you and the boy gotten engaged?

399. Megan - November 18, 2007

Mohammedan slimebag: “Blow yourself up in the middle of fifty infidels and you’ll get to fuck 72 virgins every night after you die.”
Clueless male Mohammedan: “Sweet! Where can I get the explosives?”
Mohammedan slimebag: “‘Round the corner and turn to the left.”
Clueless male Mohammedan: “Thanks! I’ll go right around!”
Mohammedan slimebag: “My child, if you blow yourself up in the middle of fifty infidels and you’ll get to fuck 72 virgins every night after you die.”
Female Mohammedan: “Uh…”
Mohammedan slimebag: “You’ll be favored by Allah.”
Female Mohammedan: “Uh…”
Mohammedan slimebag: “And I promise you, every one of them will cry after sex. It will be your eternity in Heaven.”
Female Mohammedan: “Uh…”
Female Mohammedan: “Uh… how would I get to Hell?”
Mohammedan slimebag: “Wear jeans.”
Female Mohammedan: “Jeans?”
Mohammedan slimebag: “Three blocks down and around to the left. There’s a GAP store there.”
Female Mohammedan: “Thanks.”
Mohammedan slimebag: “Why do you ask, my daughter?”
Female Mohammedan: “I, uh… I’m going to blow it up. For Allah.”
Mohammedan slimebag: “Allah will bless you, my daughter.”
Female Mohammedan: “Yeah. Uh. Thanks, gotta go.”

400. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

Ha!

Nope, not yet, lauraw. Pretty much everyone is convinced he’s going to pop the question in Rome. I think it’s very likely, but there’s also a chance he might wait until February. We’ll see.

401. A male feminist - November 18, 2007

It’s 2007, you can propose to the man, you know.

Do you live in the Dark Ages, or something?

402. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

Hell yeah. The Dark Ages have way more antioxidants.

403. lauraw - November 18, 2007

you can propose to the man, you know

Oh no way in Hell.

If a man has his heart set on a woman, but gets a ‘no’ answer to that question, he is simply crushed.

If a woman has her heart set on a man, but gets a ‘no’ answer to that question….the man is in danger.

A woman scorned? Hello, have we met?

No, no. It’s safer this way.

404. daveintexas - November 18, 2007

Danger? Danger is my middle name.

405. Lipstick - November 18, 2007

No. The man must propose. That’s just the f’ing way it is.

406. Lipstick - November 18, 2007

He may try to surprise you though. Mr. LS basically told me where he was going to propose (the casino where we met).

But he surprised me by doing it at the cigar bar.

Wow, that sounds wholesome!

407. cranky - November 18, 2007

PEE-cahn. And that’s how we say it in Alabama. Well, that’s where I live now but I grew up in Pennsylvania near those damn buggy drivers. Maybe it is Peh-cahn.

408. Lipstick - November 18, 2007

Hey cranky, near Johnstown, 70 miles east of Pittsburgh.

(From KC’s blog)

409. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

Well, he hasn’t dropped any hints. I’ll know when he’s going to do it, though, because he doesn’t eat when he’s nervous. So if he takes me out for a nice dinner and only picks at his plate, I’ll know something’s up.

410. Russ from Winterset - November 18, 2007

Don’t worry about the “when” part of it, Mrs. P. Just practice breaking out in tears & telling him how wonderful the whole thing is. ‘Cuz we men are simple critters, who strive for postive feedback from our wimmenfolk.

Wanna know how I proposed to my wife? No? Tough shit. You’re gonna hear about it anyway.

We had been dating for awhile (three years), and she asked me to take one of her pearl rings into the jewelry store to have the setting repaired. I had the jeweler size the ring, then bought her engagement ring in that size. A couple of nights later, while we were watching the 2000 NBA finals (not that we’re huge NBA fans, but it was on, and it beat the meerkat documentary or whatever was on History or Discovery at the time), I mentioned to her “Oh yeah, Jerry at the store finished your ring. Here it is.”

I slipped the ring on her finger while she was distracted, but she realized that the ring didn’t feel right after a few seconds, and looked down at it.

Luckily for me, contract law dictates that once the ring is on the finger, the proposal is considered to be accepted.

I’m sure “The Boy” will come up with a creative way to pop the question, so that the two of you can get the preliminaries out of the way & you can proceed to change his nickname to “The Man”.

411. Michael - November 18, 2007

OK, I’m catching up here. We went to see the road show of “Spamalot” at the Ohio Theater (a National Historic Landmark; one of those super-ornate old theaters that have been lovingly restored like the Majestic in St. Louis). It was a thoroughly delightful show, just plain fun. I recommend that you see it if you get the chance.

Mrs. Peel — or until the thread got onto the topic of her rack. Granted, that’s really the guys’ fault, not hers, but still.

Guilty. But then, much later, when I made a mocking reference to this staple AOSHQ gag, she got very angry with me.

RG — I like Teh Fred.

My political strategy now is to vote for whoever Geezer votes for. I just don’t want to think about it. It makes my head hurt. So Geezer has my proxy.

Megan — Jack Ryan was married to Jeri Lynn. And she had even more spectacular tits. Isn’t he a fool?

No. Duh.

Megan — But Wickedpinto’s a mouth-breathing moron.

You’re just plain wrong about WP. He is (1) bright, (2) a surprisingly decent and romantic guy, and (3) hasn’t really found his way in life yet. He had a tough childhood in Lake County Indiana. I’ve been to Lake County. It’s the shit fringe of Chicago. It’s not where you would choose to grow up.

Geoff — which was unfortunate but at least was a commenter-on-commenter battle, not a blogger-on-regular battle.

That’s the great thing about IB. We don’t have bloggers, so we don’t have that issue. I can ridicule Geoff’s absurd views on immigration with impunity.

Megan (regarding WP) — Eh. I post all the time when I’m smashed too, but you’ll never see me typing like a *totally* illiterate James Joyce.

The point is that WP did not get exposed to James Joyce in Lake County schools. He found that on his own. He found some honor in the Marine Corps. He is loyal to his family. I respect him.

Laura — You can say the same exact thing, but it comes across very differently with a female’s name attached.

Rosetta has learned this the hard way.

What happened to Tattooed Intellectual, btw? I have not seen her in awhile, and miss her bulletins from the southern hemisphere.

412. Mrs. Peel - November 18, 2007

That’s funny. Sounds like my dad. Mom mentioned that she was interested in a program to study meteorology, but she would have to go to a different school in another city, and Dad asked, “Well, how are you going to do that if you’re marrying me?”

413. cranky - November 18, 2007

Lipstick, my youngest brother graduated from Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Grew up a few miles west of Valley Forge, graduated from high school at the same school that young woman graduated from who was rumored to have had an affair with John Kerry.

Had any snow yet? Steelers are rocking and the Eagles are sucking *sob*.

And Dave in Texas, screw the Cowboys.

414. Michael - November 18, 2007

Danger? Danger is my middle name.

No sir. Paraffin Wax Hand Bath is your middle name.

415. Russ from Winterset - November 18, 2007

You know what? I totally effed up that story. How could I propose to her in June 2000, when we got MARRIED in June 2000? Substitute 1999 in that story, and it’s now corrected.

416. Russ from Winterset - November 18, 2007

Michael, what’s your evaluation of “Spamalot”? My wife and I went to it this summer, and I thought it was a great event for those who WANT to be “Holy Grail” geeks, but don’t want to sit through 732 viewings of the movie.

I liked it, but I also didn’t think it measured up to the original movie. Which is OK. Not every entertainment event can be “Monty Python & The Holy Grail”.

I did get a laugh out of the whole “Lancelot is so far in the closet that he’s standing behind your pr0n stash, your old letter jacket, and a couple pairs of Chuck Taylor Specials you’ve never bothered to throw out” storyline, and there were enough other laugh lines to make the night worth the effort on my part.

417. Lipstick - November 18, 2007

Cranky, not to worry, Steelers just lost to the JETS, for goodness sake.

And I don’t live there anymore, but I hear there is some snow. Yuck. And sure I know IUP, Jimmy Stewart grew up in Indiana PA.

I go back to visit the family, but only in the summer!

418. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael:

1. Marriage, I did the typical goofy thing and had a Chinese restaurant put my wife’s ring in a fortune cookie. I also agree with all the other girls and say that the man must propose. Fuck off, “male feminist.” It’s not “the Dark Ages” – it’s called civilization.

2. Jack Ryan was indeed an idiot. This was apparent well before Jeri Lynn divorced him; I’d been saying it for years.

3. Wickedpinto is a psycho and a drooling idiot. This opinion of mine will not change. Not tonight, not tomorrow, and not for a hundred years after that. Clear? Do not attempt to contradict me again on this.

And as usual, Laura put it best on the subject at hand: “If a woman has her heart set on a man, but gets a ‘no’ answer to that question….the man is in danger.”

Quite. We’re talking mushroom clouds here.

419. Megan - November 19, 2007

Wow. That RWS thread… just… wow. I never knew Jack M was such a complete shithead. I attached a reply:

“333

I was just directed here by a friend. Wow, Jack, you really made yourself look like a complete fucking ass, didn’t you?

RWS is a class act and you’re a fucking jerk. Talking shit about her daughter, for chrissakes? Yeah, that really made you look good. Goddamn pervert.

Rot in fucking hell, asshole.”

420. Michael - November 19, 2007

Luckily for me, contract law dictates that once the ring is on the finger, the proposal is considered to be accepted.

*sniff*

Damn, that was so romantic. I’m blubbering like a baby. I can hardly wait to meet Mrs. Russ. Even if she has to pee every 25 minutes.

421. Michael - November 19, 2007

Michael, what’s your evaluation of “Spamalot”? My wife and I went to it this summer, and I thought it was a great event for those who WANT to be “Holy Grail” geeks, but don’t want to sit through 732 viewings of the movie.

I liked it, but I also didn’t think it measured up to the original movie.

I liked it better than the movie, pretty much for the reasons you mention. The live production we saw was just a lot of fun, and you didn’t have to be an Eric Idle/John Cleese geek to get it. The show had dancing, hot chicks, funny stock-Broadway music, lots of comedy. Really, the whole show was just a Monty Python joke about Broadway musicals. The “we need a Jew” aspect of the Quest was especially precious, even more so than the mock gay-glorification when Lancelot comes out. What more can you ask for?

422. Megan - November 19, 2007

I can’t let this go. How the hell can someone attack RWS, of all people? I’m still seeing red.

“335

One last thing:

Jack, you do not EVER want to fuck with a mother. That’s your fucking death warrant. You denigrated her daughter. I wouldn’t blame her for going fucking postal at that point. You don’t even go near that.

You don’t even know what the fuck you’re dealing with. Women are WAY more vicious than men. WAY more hurtful. WAY more… everything. I’m a woman, and I’ve only ever been involved with other women. I know what I’m talking about. We’re fucking scary.

Men can be like John McCain. Halfway here, halfway there… not really going with one thing or another.

Women are like this: You fucked with me. You fucked with my children. You fucked with the people I love. Know what? YOU’RE FUCKING FUCKED.

KABOOM.

end.

Think about that.

And then make your next post a sincere apology to RWS.

Not because I think you’re a decent person, but because even maggots have a sense of self-preservation.”

423. Michael - November 19, 2007

I totally effed up that story. How could I propose to her in June 2000, when we got MARRIED in June 2000?

Russ, you really screwed that up.

So, get the current situation straight. Mrs. Russ is not fat, she’s pregnant. And she looks incredibly sexy.

I know, she’s not really sexy when she’s all bloated like that, but never mind. Just lie your ass off and tell her she’s sexy. Your not actually going to have to follow through.

[Well, if you do have to follow through, fantasize about Halle Berry.]

424. Michael - November 19, 2007

How the hell can someone attack RWS, of all people?

Yeah. I sort of drove steve_in_hb away from IB for the same reason, even though I actually had some sympathy for his reaction to RWS’s opinion of atheists. RWS can get under your skin if you don’t understand affluent Catholics.

425. Megan - November 19, 2007

I’ve been an atheist myself during some periods of my life. Even so, I never had anything but the deepest respect for faithful Christians.

426. See-Dubya - November 19, 2007

Mrs. Peel:

Puh-kahn. A “pee-can” is something that goes under the bed at night.

427. Michael - November 19, 2007

Steve is respectful of Christians. He went postal when RWS implied that atheists can’t have any moral foundation.

BTW, Megan, I spent about 2 hours downloading Windows Messenger tonight, just for you. The download program locked up my ancient computer; I had to comment with my laptop. It still doesn’t work. Apparently I need some kind of Microsoft email account to log in to, in order for it to work. Any advice would be appreciated.

428. Michael - November 19, 2007

Do not attempt to contradict me again on this.

That is actually the second peremptory command that you have given me, on this thread, about how to conduct myself on a site that I own.

Can anyone fail to see why I love this woman?

429. Michael - November 19, 2007

So, let’s get back to the point.

Skyline chili sucks.

If you have cinnamon or nutmeg in your chili recipe, you are a fag. That’s just a fact.

Deal with it. Tell your parents.

430. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “That is actually the second peremptory command that you have given me, on this thread, about how to conduct myself on a site that I own. Can anyone fail to see why I love this woman?”

Because I’m a a ridiculously overconfident jackass who’s never been denied anything she’s ever wanted in her life?

431. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “Apparently I need some kind of Microsoft email account to log in to, in order for it to work. Any advice would be appreciated.”

I’d love to help, and I really appreciate the fact that you gave it a shot, but I have no head for techie stuff. That shit just confuses me; you’ll have to find someone else.

432. Michael - November 19, 2007

#430

Yup.

Also, you claim to have a nice ass, and I’m inclined to believe you.

433. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “Steve is respectful of Christians. He went postal when RWS implied that atheists can’t have any moral foundation.”

I agree with RWS. I’m not saying that atheists can’t have moral convictions; but I do say that they have no FOUNDATION for their moral convictions.

You believe in God or you don’t.

Much though I respect and admire those atheists who fervently oppose abortion.

434. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “Also, you claim to have a nice ass, and I’m inclined to believe you.”

Nah… not by most standards. I have a tiny little ass. I have no curves, I have no breasts, and I have no hips. Truth. I love women, and I love womanly curves, but that doesn’t mean I can boast about having them myself.

I look like a 12 year-old girl, only a lot meaner. Always have and always shall.

435. Michael - November 19, 2007

I’m not saying that atheists can’t have moral convictions; but I do say that they have no FOUNDATION for their moral convictions.

Yes they do. I have made a hobby of talking to atheists. I’m sort of the pet Christian at atheist sites like the World Wide Rant or Politburo Diktat. (See the blogroll.)

You can work your way through evolutionary biology to foundational moral principles.

Those principles are a Satanic ruse, IMHO. But, they are fundamental and moral.

436. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “Those principles are a Satanic ruse, IMHO. But, they are fundamental and moral.”

Satanic =! moral.

Go read your Bible, you fucking twit.

(I know you like it when I say that.)

437. Michael - November 19, 2007

Further elaborating on #435:

Evolutionary biology is science. The facts supporting this science are pretty much incontrovertible.

“Science” is a religion, in that science purports to be a source of knowing and revelation. (We’re talking about epistemology.) For atheists, science is the exclusive source of knowing, and it requires many leaps of faith. Evolutionary biology is the science that directly challenged Christianity.

Christianity is no different. It purports to be fact-based, relying entirely on the reliability of God’s promises throughout history, and the essential fact of the resurrection. Christianity also requires leaps of faith.

My point being, atheists can have moral foundations that are not incomparable to those who believe in God.

438. Megan - November 19, 2007

You’re wrong on several counts, and you don’t know what “epistemology” means. And evolutionary biology challenges Christianity on not one single count.

And your “point” is incorrect and worthless.

439. Michael - November 19, 2007

Christianity also requires leaps of faith.

Well, really only one leap. You have to believe the resurrection of Christ actually happened, even though you did not witness it. That’s the point of Christ’s discourse with Thomas. Paul makes the same point: everything hangs on the resurrection. If you don’t believe that, Paul says, the whole religion is a sham.

440. Michael - November 19, 2007
441. Megan - November 19, 2007

The conversation Jesus Christ had with Thomas hinged on this one simple fact: faith does not require proof. As soon as proof is required, faith becomes not only useless but unnecessary.

“Because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
– John 20:29

442. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael:

Wikipedia. The last recourse of the imbecile.

443. Michael - November 19, 2007

#438

You’re arguing like bbeck, btw.

And evolutionary biology challenges Christianity on not one single count.

Christians believe that the biblical account is grounded on facts, and is not merely a myth revealing higher truth. Evolutionary biology challenges Christianity because it refutes the traditional creation narrative. Attempts to reconcile evolution with Genesis are unsuccessful; they founder on the meaning of the Hebrew word for “day” in Genesis.

444. Michael - November 19, 2007

faith does not require proof. As soon as proof is required, faith becomes not only useless but unnecessary.

I agree. I think I was making the same point. Science is an alternative way of knowing, but it relies on proof rather than revelation.

445. Michael - November 19, 2007

Wikipedia. The last recourse of the imbecile.

Do you have a great rack like bbeck? If not, knock off the stupid comments like this.

446. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “You’re arguing like bbeck, btw.”

Bite your tongue. And then explain how the analogy applies. I haven’t refused to engage you on any point.

“Christians believe that the biblical account is grounded on facts, and is not merely a myth revealing higher truth. Evolutionary biology challenges Christianity because it refutes the traditional creation narrative. Attempts to reconcile evolution with Genesis are unsuccessful; they founder on the meaning of the Hebrew word for “day” in Genesis.”

In a word: bullshit. Christians of every denomination have always believed that Genesis can be interpreted as metaphor. Pope John Paul II accepted the truth of the evolution of the human body in a papal encyclical. Attempting to deny this historical fact just makes you look stupid.

447. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “Do you have a great rack like bbeck? If not, knock off the stupid comments like this.”

As I said before, I have no breasts. 34A at best.

And I’ll say whatever I please, and you’ll like it.

448. Megan - November 19, 2007

Also, to be quite honest, bbeck didn’t seem to have all that spectacular a rack. Okay, it looked fairly big under that T-shirt. So? Hardly perky or remarkable on any other count, at least according to me.

449. Michael - November 19, 2007

Pope John Paul II accepted the truth of the evolution of the human body in a papal encyclical. Attempting to deny this historical fact just makes you look stupid.

Erm, I’m Lutheran. Citing a pope as authoritative makes you look stupid.

As I said before, I have no breasts. 34A at best.

So, you have no authority either. I mean, who gives a shit about your 330 IQ? 🙂

And I’ll say whatever I please, and you’ll like it.

Yes ma’am. You’re right about that.

450. Megan - November 19, 2007

And you were the one who posted the wikipedia link. It’s generally understood that anyone who does that doesn’t have the first clue about the subject at hand, so get off your fuckin’ high horse. You want to ban me from your fuckin’ site? Go right the fuck ahead, Butters. But don’t ever think you can bully me into censoring what I say. I don’t give a flying fuck about any of you.

And here’s a reminder: that’s why you like me.

451. Megan - November 19, 2007

…eh.

Sorry for being nasty up there. I just get pissy sometimes.

452. Michael - November 19, 2007

We’re posting at the same time.

get off your fuckin’ high horse

I think a fair reading of my comments does not suggest a high horse.

You want to ban me from your fuckin’ site?

Of course not. Why are you getting emotional?

Oh, I forgot, you’re female.

And here’s a reminder: that’s why you like me.

I adore you. How many times do I have to say this?

453. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “Erm, I’m Lutheran. Citing a pope as authoritative make you like stupid.”

Well, I’m a Catholic. I suppose we can go round and round all night about whether the Pope is the last word on a particular subject or not, but I don’t think it’ll get us anywhere.

You said that “Christians believe that the biblical account is grounded on facts, and is not merely a myth revealing higher truth.”

I repeat: “Christians believe…”

This is obviously not true. You were quite simply, and quite clearly, flat-out wrong. Christians – or at least Catholics – can easily incorporate the theory of evolution into our doctrinal beliefs.

454. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “Of course not. Why are you getting emotional? Oh, I forgot, you’re female.”

…yeah. Also, I’m a little tipsy.

Yeah, like that surprises anyone.

“I adore you. How many times do I have to say this?”

[melts] aww….

455. Michael - November 19, 2007

So? Hardly perky or remarkable on any other count, at least according to me.

See? Another thing we agree on.

456. Michael - November 19, 2007

Christians – or at least Catholics – can easily incorporate the theory of evolution into our doctrinal beliefs.

I can too, but it’s a hard row to hoe for us fundy biblical literalists.

457. Megan - November 19, 2007

Good man.

458. Megan - November 19, 2007

(that was in response to your post about the unremarkableness of bbeck’s breasts)

459. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “I can too, but it’s a hard row to hoe for us fundy biblical literalists.”

I don’t have a problem with reading the Bible literally and understanding Darwinian theory at the same time.

I picture God leaning on a pool cue and smirking while she lights up a cigarette. She says:

“You silly little bastard. You think I can’t hit all the right balls at just the right time? What, you think I’m that fucking incompetent? If I wanted man to evolve this way I’d do it however the fuck I wanted. You think I really need to pull a fucking miracle out of My ass every time I was stumped? Here’s a fucking hint, jackass: does the word “omniscient” mean anything to you?

Go rack up the next set. And try not to piss me off anymore.”

460. Michael - November 19, 2007

There is really only one outstanding issue here:

Does Dave like pie?

*waits for Dave*

461. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael:

The only “outstanding issue” is that you’re not giving God the credit she deserves.

She set this up.

We’re the ones who have to make sense out of it, but don’t tell me that She didn’t know what She was doing. I have more faith in Her than to believe that.

462. Michael - November 19, 2007

#459

We’re on the same page.

You should come to the Innocent Bystanders Super Bowl Party. I have a pool table. I’ll kick your ass.

463. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “I have a pool table. I’ll kick your ass.”

I have no doubt that you would, since my cancer inflicts severe neurological damage and I can’t control my fine motor functions anymore. Enjoy yourself.

464. Megan - November 19, 2007

And to be honest, I always sucked at pool anyway. Poker’s more my speed.

465. Megan - November 19, 2007

Furthermore, Michael: you are required to abjectly apologize for comparing me to bbeck. That was completely unwarranted and unfair.

I did nothing to deserve such slander.

466. Michael - November 19, 2007

You should come anyway. Search the site for the threads on this party, and who is going to show up. (The search will not disclose that Mesablue is going to bring Wickedpinto, BTW. That’s email info.)

Laura refers to internet relationships as “imaginary friends.” As you said earlier, Laura is always right. “Imaginary friends” is a useful concept, because it reminds us that online interaction is not the same as real life.

But, the fact remains that there are people behind the pixels, and the fiber optic cables between me and others who comment here does not prevent real human contact.

467. Megan - November 19, 2007

If WP will be there, zero chance of me.

I neither like nor trust that… “man.” Not for a fucking second. Not even if I have both my guns and a full honor guard around me.

He just pisses me off.

468. lauraw - November 19, 2007

Hopefully God set up the shot so that mankind will eventually get a set of knees that are worth a shit past the age of 40, eh?

In His image, *snort*.

469. Megan - November 19, 2007

[kicks in her heels]

470. lauraw - November 19, 2007

You guys might find it interesting that I had an opportunity to meet Megan once while she was visiting Hartford (I know, it’s amazing, NOBODY visits Hartford).

But that was a while before Mr. W. was comfortable with the whole wife-talking-to-strangers-on-the-internet thing, so I couldn’t go.

471. Megan - November 19, 2007

😦

I was sad about that, but I understood. No hard feelings, Laura. I still love you.

472. lauraw - November 19, 2007

Oh, and Good Morning you two!

Quite a convo you had last night.

473. lauraw - November 19, 2007

*blush*

474. Megan - November 19, 2007

Good morning to you too, beautiful. 🙂

475. Megan - November 19, 2007

[snorts] My dog’s being all antsy and shit. Apparently she now thinks she’s allowed to get up on my sofa, like my cat…

[barks at her sharply] Well, that worked.

476. Michael - November 19, 2007

Furthermore, Michael: you are required to abjectly apologize for comparing me to bbeck. That was completely unwarranted and unfair.

I’m sorry, ma’am. I went too far.

I did nothing to deserve such slander.

Well, you cited the Pope. And you dinged me for linking Wikipedia.

Still, that’s no excuse for comparing you to bbeck. That was a low blow.

477. Mrs. Peel - November 19, 2007

Huh. So I’m not the only one who thinks that “torpedo” is a bad shape for breasts. I always figured that I’m just too heterosexual to have a valid opinion.

I’ll take the risk of getting flamed and say that I do think most atheists have developed a logical foundation for their moral principles. They are, of course, wrong about God’s existence, but they do logically derive the “Golden Rule” and attempt to live by it. Their derivation may be incorrect due to having incorrect starting principles, but they do have a set of starting principles and have developed a morality that is logically consistent with them.

So, even though I am Christian and think atheists are flat-out wrong, I think it’s pretty insulting and also counterproductive (see any Hot Air thread on religion) to accuse them of having no moral foundation, especially when you do so in a tone that can be taken as condescending. I’m not saying RWS was trying to be condescending, but she often comes across that way. I’m sorry to say I have misunderstood her at times as well, so I can easily understand why steve was upset.

Michael, “affluent Catholics”? Not trying to open a can of worms, but what does RWS’s putative money have to do with it?

Well, gotta go to work and then class and then meet my nephew. My sister’s being induced starting in about an hour. I’ll be glad when she’s safely delivered, because this has been a high-risk pregnancy. I’m still afraid something’s going to go wrong at the last minute.

478. Megan - November 19, 2007

Hmm. I’m a Christian, I make over $500k a year, though I don’t really do much with it, and I don’t believe in the Golden Rule. I think Jesus got that one wrong, frankly.

[sits back in her chair, obviously having no problem with believing herself to be more intelligent than God]

479. Megan - November 19, 2007

Michael: “Still, that’s no excuse for comparing you to bbeck. That was a low blow.”

Apology accepted.

480. Megan - November 19, 2007

Mrs Peel: “Huh. So I’m not the only one who thinks that “torpedo” is a bad shape for breasts. I always figured that I’m just too heterosexual to have a valid opinion.”

I would love to discuss this topic with you at much greater length whenever you are available.

481. Megan - November 19, 2007

Forgot to add:

All my prayers are with your sister, Mrs Peel. I don’t know if they’ll do more harm than good, but she and you have them nonetheless. Sorry if it doesn’t help.

482. Megan - November 19, 2007

Still waking up. Ugh…

[coughs and lights a cigarette] Motherfuckers.

…it’s strange how that’s usually the first word out of my mouth on any given day.

And I’m not sure I remember whom I’m pissed off at today.

[yells for her maid to call her secretary]

483. Dave in Texas - November 19, 2007

Hopefully God set up the shot so that mankind will eventually get a set of knees that are worth a shit past the age of 40, eh?

word. “Wretched man that I am, who will save me from these knees of death”?

484. Megan - November 19, 2007

hrm. Apparently I was supposed to bitch at some idiot Frenchman. I don’t think I can be bothered this morning. I’ll have breakfast first.

485. Megan - November 19, 2007

Hmm. I don’t know if I want Johnnie Walker or Lagavulin… choices, choices.

486. Michael - November 19, 2007

Michael, “affluent Catholics”? Not trying to open a can of worms, but what does RWS’s putative money have to do with it?

I’m not talking about RWS in particular, but about affluent American Catholicism in general. Long story short, the Catholicism that most of us are exposed to in America is much different, and represents a more discriminating theology, than what you see worldwide. This shows up in a variety of ways, most obviously in attitudes regarding papal authority (especially on the subject of birth control), the cult of Mary, the influence of priests and the importance of a celibate priesthood, the way in which saints are venerated, and so forth.

Catholicism in some places is akin to voodoo. Not so with the American Catholocism to which RWS subscribes.

487. Megan - November 19, 2007

Oh, don’t you fucking start with the “cult of Mary” bullshit.

488. Megan - November 19, 2007

It’s way too early in the day to get me that annoyed.

489. Michael - November 19, 2007

Lagavulin, the breakfast of champions.

Actually, a lighter, aperitif single malt like Oban might be better for breakfast.

490. Megan - November 19, 2007

Just don’t. Fucking. Start. With. Me.

Just apologize right off the fucking bat, Michael. Don’t fucking pretend you know any fucking thing about Catholic Christianity. Don’t fucking pretend you know SHIT about the distinctions between latria, hyperdulia, and dulia, and don’t fucking pretend you know what the FUCK we’re talking about when we say “pray for us sinners.”

You sound like a fucking idiot.

491. eddiebear - November 19, 2007

Wow! I’m ghlad somebody else shares my disgust with the self righteousness over at Hot Air. To me, the want to lose mindset they have over there is galling

492. Megan - November 19, 2007

eddiebear –

Oh, take it as read. I love Allahpundit, and I have some affection for Michelle Malkin, but they just push it too fucking far sometimes. “Galling” is the mildest word I have in my vocabulary for people like them.

493. lauraw - November 19, 2007

I just love the word fuck. Can’t help it. Megan’s nasty, stinkin’ ‘tude this morning is cracking my shit up.

When it’s aimed at Butters and not me, of course.

494. Megan - November 19, 2007

Baby, when do I ever aim it at you?

You know I love you.

495. Megan - November 19, 2007

Laura: “I just love the word fuck”

You might like this post, then:

http://www.thepitftw.com/index.php?showtopic=445&view=findpost&p=12090

“Irked as I recently have been by a Voyager episode in which the vaunted Starfleet ideals of not shooting back at the enemy YET AGAIN lead to utterly predictable disaster followed by equally predictable sanctimonious preachifying, I’m going to deal with this in a little more depth. Let’s start with this absolutely objective, cold, hard fact: you motherfucking whining curs make me sick to my stomach. Jingus, Eric, and everyone else who’s been arguing on your side – you all make me want to puke. Killing terrorists makes us terrorists, does it? You sleep well because we’re so fucking restrained, do you?

Fuck you. You stupid worthless bastards. You miserable little pieces of shit.

You didn’t kill 3000 people on 9/11? – you’re not responsible for at least many more Americans dead in this war and the terrorist attacks that preceded it? Must be nice to tell yourselves that in the dark of night. Yet it’s the very policies you advocate, the garbage you spout, the fucking surreal delusional BULLSHIT that comes out of your fucking ignorant mouths that GETS our people killed. UBL has stated that in so many fucking words. You’re so worried about the well-being of his fucking raghead scum – why don’t you listen to their leader. He cited our ever so FUCKING precious restraint in Mogadishu as DIRECT ENCOURAGEMENT to plan and implement the 9/11 attacks.

In Iraq Zarqawi and his assholes watch us tiptoe around Fallujah, they watch CNN and trash like Durbin, and think hey, so what if we attack American soldiers or civilians, at worst we’ll go to a fucking hotel in Cuba and gain 10 lbs, then Amnesty will get us out and we can do it right the fuck again.

This gets our people killed.

Do you give a shit? Doesn’t sound like you do. Because you’re so concerned that THE TERRORISTS WILL WIN if we kill one single motherfucker with a goddamned Koran in his filthy paws and WE’LL PROVE THEM RIGHT if we blow the fucking hell out of the fucking place like we should have all along, they are NOT terrified right the fuck out of their barbaric witless skulls at the sight of an American citizen and they don’t think twice about hacking through his neck with a very dull knife. They probably expect movie deals from Hollywood when they send in the tapes. And at this point, given the state of your fellow-travelers on the left, it wouldn’t fucking surprise me if they got one.

You shitheads sit there and weepily decry the use of force, thinking that well since ALL Moslems aren’t bad, we’re obliged to give each and every motherfucker out there the benefit of doubt, do a full fucking FBI background investigation maybe, and then ask the UN if we might be allowed to pretty please give him a nasty look or two. Fuck you. We’re at war and you don’t win wars this way. You win wars by eliminating vast tracts of the enemy, cutting bloody swathes through their ranks, inflicting UNBEARABLE losses, destroying completely their capacity to resist, and leaving the remainder filled with the fucking fear of God.

That we haven’t done this yet is the reason we are STILL losing our people. That is a disgrace. It is a disgrace you and all your kind compound daily by shrieking HORRORS! every time we take the tiniest step in the right direction. You fucking pansy-ass shits. Our countrymen are dying, but you still fucking SLEEP WELL, don’t you, because your precious little morals are just fine. You fucking solipsistic imbeciles.

Killing terrorists is a means to an end. There is nothing REMOTELY dishonorable about it. If a few innocents get caught in the crossfire, we weren’t fucking aiming at them, that should be fucking understood from the very beginning, and it’s disgusting to try to call that “genocide.” It’s fucking disgusting to draw any moral equivalency – any at all – between the United States and al Qaeda. It’s fucking obscene to say we’d “deserve” another 9/11 if we made another mistake. It only makes some sort of twisted sense if you think that terrorist fuckheads who want to enslave the entire fucking world merit equal or greater consideration than Americans trying to set the world free.

If American lives mean no more to you than terrorists’ lives, kindly say so. I’d like the fucking confirmation.”

Follow-up:

“Whew, that feels better. I’m a whole new woman.

Total instances of the word “fuck” in one form or another in post above: 29″

496. Cathy - November 19, 2007

Rich discussion. Glad you two lovies had fun last night.
Great morning read for me. I’m awake now.

Megan, bitching at a Frenchman, and an idiot at that, is recreation time on the playground, honey. Have fun with it.

497. Retired Geezer - November 19, 2007

We just bought our plane tickets to the IBSBP… $99.

Sweet.

Still one more day left on the Southwest Airlines special.

498. Megan - November 19, 2007

Thanks, Cathy. 🙂

Do have to admit I delegated it though. I just didn’t have the patience today.

(Yes, this is me in a patient mood. Do yourself a favor and never wish to see me in an impatient mood. That’s when napalm strikes start raining down around me.)

499. lauraw - November 19, 2007

*holds up lighter*

500. Megan - November 19, 2007

[lights another cigarette] Thank you dear. I did need it after that.

You’re a peach.

501. Cathy - November 19, 2007

We just bought our plane tickets to the IBSBP… $99. Sweet.

Great, Geez! And if you wanna go and see that air museum while you are here, I’ll go with you and whoever else wants to. I think it’s only about an hour’s drive one way.

Dave, You in? We could pack a picnic with chili dogs and pecan pie if that will tip the scales for ya.

We will swing by Concrete Corn and Dancing Bunnies en route.

502. Michael - November 19, 2007

Man, I don’t mind when Megan lectures my dumb ass about the intermediary role of saints.

But I purely hate it when she starts using fancy-ass words like “solipsistic” that I gotta look up to figger out what she means.

503. geoff - November 19, 2007

…like “solipsistic” that I gotta look up to figger out what she means.

You’re just looking it up because you’re hoping it’s dirty. Sure sounds dirty.

504. Megan - November 19, 2007

And I wasn’t even using that word about you, Michael – I was quoting a post I’d made in reference to other people. Sorry to disappoint.

505. Dave in Texas - November 19, 2007

Did you say “chili dogs”?

Not sure.. work things are impacting travel arrangements (fiscal EOY).

This is a weird story.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071119150522.xjkq3n1n&show_article=1

506. Michael - November 19, 2007

OK, I just looked up “solipse” in Wikipedia. It means that the sun is shining. Apparently a “solipse” is the opposite of an “eclipse.”

So it appears that Megan used the term incorrectly. Hah!

507. Mr Minority - November 19, 2007

Damn,
The latest portion of the thread took a long time to read, but worth the time.

Take away quote from all this: “Did you say “chili dogs”?”

508. Bart - November 19, 2007

Getting back to RWS and JackM:

Sparkle was trying to be cool and tell everyone to chill and forget about Jack’s stupid comments. But the kicker was when Jack read that and really started to let the hate flow. He brought up Sparkle’s “perfect husband” and a whole bunch of shit that must have been bottled up inside of Jack’s little dark heart for a long time. He’s a nasty little fuck who needs to deal with some serious personal issues.

509. See-Dubya - November 19, 2007

“…needs to deal with some serious personal issues.”

Bart: yeah, but he’s got some history there. I don’t know him from outside his postings at AoS, but he mentioned something personal here:

http://minx.cc/?post=195243

I don’t think you just get over stuff like that. While that doesn’t excuse his being rude to RWS, I can see where her posts about her happy marriage might have grated on him in a way they wouldn’t irritate most people who hadn’texperienced a similar loss.

So, Bart, I agree he was way outta line, and the whole thing was very unpleasant, but I don’t think that arises out of his “little dark heart”. Possible, and maybe I’m being too charitable here, but outside of that one incident he doesn’t seem like a bitter guy. I think grief is a better explanation.

510. geoff - November 19, 2007

I think grief is a better explanation.

If he had ever apologized thereafter, I’d happily have cut him some slack. But he apparently stands by ugly comments.

He used to be a funny guy, but I can’t think of any posts in the last year that were anything but dull and/or self-indulgent.

511. See-Dubya - November 19, 2007

Oh, yeah, he needs to apologize to RWS. I don’t read every comment at AoS, so I wasn’t sure whether he had or not. And I remember that thread was so weird and depressing I read through it once and never went back to check.

I do think he’s funny, though.

Speaking of apologies, Geoff, that reminds me I need to apologize to that one woman you told me about who makes wine, for calling her a bimbo.

512. kevlarchick - November 19, 2007

Michael, I am a proud member of the “cult of Mary.” I love her and venerate her above all other saints and humans. Even you.

I may even ask her to intercede for you. She’s your Mother, you know.

As one irreverent but accurate Mexican writer says “don’t fuck with the Virgin.”

513. theres something about amish - November 19, 2007

“don’t fuck with the Virgin.”

Leave Bart out of this.

514. Mr Minority - November 19, 2007

“don’t fuck with the Virgin.”

Ooops, looks like Michael stepped in a big pile of religious doo-doo with the Catholic Wimmin folk.

515. geoff - November 19, 2007

Speaking of apologies, Geoff, that reminds me I need to apologize to that one woman you told me about who makes wine, for calling her a bimbo.

The porn star? You may have misapplied the stereotype in her particular case, but if you picked 10 of her peers, I suspect that the odds of being right are strongly in your favor.

516. geoff - November 19, 2007

I don’t read every comment at AoS, so I wasn’t sure whether he had or not.

I haven’t been following it very closely either, but I only found out about the thread a few days afterwards, and he hadn’t apologized by then. And I don’t recall seeing RWS there since then.

I do think he’s funny, though.

He used to crack me up all the time, but not since he moved back East. Of course, Ace himself seems to have had a problem finding his comedic voice after his move to Boston. I’m happy to hear that he’s moving back to NYC.

517. Michael - November 19, 2007

I may even ask her to intercede for you. She’s your Mother, you know.

I guess I’m OK with that, as long as she doesn’t make me eat broccoli.

518. Pupster - November 19, 2007
519. Megan - November 19, 2007

See-Dubya: “I think grief is a better explanation.”

Maybe. Losing someone you love hurts like hell. But like geoff said, he has to apologize. RWS didn’t do anything to him. She just hasn’t said she went through the shit he says he went through. That doesn’t give him the right to be a complete asshole to her, and saying ANYTHING AT ALL about her daughter was WAY the fuck out of line.

I know if I had a daughter and anyone dared to say the first fucking word in reference to her I’d go fucking ballistic.

There are just some things with which you do not fuck.

Ever.

520. Bill Clinton - November 19, 2007

There are just some things with which you do not fuck.

Tell me about it. I married one of those things.

521. Bart - November 19, 2007

She just hasn’t said she went through the shit he says he went through.

This is a good point. Just because we don’t share it, it doesn’t mean we haven’t gone through rough times and experienced major loss and pain in our lives. Sparkle gets crapped on by malcontents who assume she lives the perfect life. They’re so stupid.

I know if I had a daughter…

This raises another good point: If Jack had a daughter of his own he wouldn’t have said it. Although Michael, who has girl(s), says stupid shit about RWS’ daughter. But that’s Michael…a grown retarded man who owns a batman costume, so what can you expect?

522. Bart - November 19, 2007

In case you have yet to peep a pic of Sparkle’s kid:
https://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2006/12/02/rightwingsparkle-shares-christmas-ornaments/

*Notice the lovely tan and lovely boobies.*

523. Bart - November 19, 2007

Oops, I meant ornaments.

Shit, what the hell am I thinking?

524. amish puts baby in a corner - November 19, 2007

Sparkle gets crapped on by malcontents who assume she lives the perfect life.

No – she gets crapped on because she acts like she has a perfect life.

It doesnt bother me though. Nearly all chicks on the internet pick a personalty or shtick and refuse to budge from it.

Feisty/Whore
Megan/Arrogant Bitch
RWS/Girl Scout
Peel/Egghead

Its their niche. They dont stray too far from it for good or ill. I dont have a problem with it myself. It is what it is.

Dudes seem to act out a lot more personality types.

Me – im a perve. Its what i do.

525. Mr Minority - November 19, 2007

Shit, what the hell am I thinking?

Uhhh, thinking like a male maybe?

526. Mr Minority - November 19, 2007

Laura/Tuber Grower

527. amish almost feels bad for this...almost - November 19, 2007

Megan/Tumor Grower

528. Bart - November 19, 2007

Remember when Howard Stern used to play a gameshow called “That’s So Wrong” back in, I think, 2003?

Does he still do it on his satelite radio show? Does anyone listen to his radio show?

I’m surprised his E! show hasn’t come out on DVD — he’d make millions of $$ on it.

529. dr4 - November 19, 2007

I dont really get Howard Stern. His show isnt on any Nashville stations. I always heard how funny he was, but when i finally heard his show, i was underwhelmed.

I did like his movie though.

530. Bart - November 19, 2007

Stern is an awful human being. I’m surprised you’re not a fan, a-a.

He’s funny, I’ll give him that. And clever.

531. Bart - November 19, 2007

Oh, anyway, his show That’s So Wrong would have father/daughter or mother/son contestants doing some really creepy things for money and prizes. It was so bad (evil) that even Stern was embarrassed. I think he finally said that was enough and stopped doing it.

532. See-Dubya - November 19, 2007

Megan–absolutely he should apologize. I’ve got girl-children and I would react much less graciously than Sparkle did to Jack’s remarks. It was creepy because it was so out-of-the-blue, it wasn’t like someone went over the top in a flame war or something. I just don’t think that that’s an indication he’s some sort of awful person.

Geoff–Funny how moving changes one’s writing style. With the exception of maybe four posts, I don’t think I’ve been particularly interesting or witty since I moved this summer. Not that I was Baldassare freakin’ Castiglione before that, but I’ve been boring myself lately.

533. Bart - November 19, 2007

Location has little to do with it. We (yes, all of us) are simply running out of original things to say.

534. dr4 - November 19, 2007

“We (yes, all of us) are simply running out of original things to say.”

Blogs seem to be in kind of a funk. Nobody is doing humor pieces right now. Not that there were a lot before. I cant remember the last blog post that made me laugh.

Everybody’s just coasting along linking to whatever the typical news of the day yahoo headlines craps out.

We’re just lacking inspiration.

535. See-Dubya - November 19, 2007

Yeah, I think the primary jockeying is taking some of the joy out of it too. It’s not quite to a Schiavo level of anger and recrimination yet, but this is the first time the conservative blogosphere is participating in picking a nominee and it’s putting a strain on some buried fault lines.

536. dr4 - November 19, 2007

And another thing – i dont think i like most bloggers. Most of them seem like douche bags. I got into blogs during the Rathergate and the runnup to the general election so the differences between them and me werent as apparent.

Wizbang – Assholes
INDC – Dick
Protein Wisdom – Stopped reading when he hired all the new cobloggers
Allah – Retired. Come back, but he’s boring.
Malkin – Hot but still not funny
Ace – Doesnt bring the funny anymore. Gabe sucks.

And the list goes on.

Hard to make jokes on these kind of sites.

537. Bart - November 19, 2007

I went to AoS earlier today and saw 7 Gabriel posts in a row. WTF? Doesn’t he have midterms or exams to study for, or something?

If he’s going to post that much, he should get his own blog. I’d like to see 75% posts by Ace and 25% of posts by co-bloggers.

538. dr4 - November 19, 2007

“It’s not quite to a Schiavo level of anger and recrimination yet”

There is a reason why politics and religion shouldnt be discussed in public. People are very very serious about some of this shit. It is very hard for me to joke around with someone who ive just judged to be an inhuman piece of shit because they disagree with me on an issue. Its too easy for me to just to say ‘Fuck Off and DIE!’ when another slight disagreement pops up because that shit is still simmering.

539. dr4 - November 19, 2007

he has his own blog.

http://malor.wordpress.com/

Everything gets cross posted at Aces.

Ive see worse co bloggers. The problem is ace doesnt seem to take the extra time to come up with really funny material.

540. Bart - November 19, 2007

Its too easy for me to just to say ‘Fuck Off and DIE!’

Yeah, okay, but that’s what people tell you, not the other way around. By the way, where’d you fall on that issue? Are you a heartless plug-puller?

541. dr4 - November 19, 2007

Nope. Just the opposite. I was actually shocked that so many people wanted to let that woman die of thirst. It was like watching “V” when one of the aliens would get their face ripped off and you see what they are underneath.

They arent human

542. Bart - November 19, 2007

V was a very good tv miniseries, which is rare.

543. dr4 - November 19, 2007

Diana was a real L.I.L.F.

544. daveintexas - November 19, 2007

25% of posts by co-bloggers.

I’m shootin for 1.1%

I got shit to do.

545. lauraw - November 19, 2007

Yeah, I’m helping you guys out too. Like it’s on purpose or something.

Go Ace!

BTW, my tipline is laurawtips AT gmail DOT com

*cough*

546. Megan - November 19, 2007

Gabriel Malor is a son of a bitch who deserves to be shot.

[twirls one of her guns] C’mere, you son of a bitch. Get in range.

Fuckin’ try me.

547. See-Dubya - November 20, 2007

Why? The international law thing?

548. See-Dub - November 20, 2007

I mean, I hope you don’t just shoot people for being boring. I’d have needed to defend myself from you for…well, most of my life, actually.

549. Sobek - November 20, 2007

I agree about Allah. His was the first blog I ever read, and it so happened that I was in Evidence class. I found a link to his Howard Dead photoshops, and pretty soon I had to pretend I had a coughing fit to disguise my laughter (I don’t think I did a very good job).

But that was the old Allah. Then he got sued, retired, and came back a little too timid. He’s still an excellent wordsmith, but I can tell his heart isn’t in it.

And I agree with you, Bart, that we run out of things to say. That’s why my blog went dark.

Finally, I can tell you all from personal experience that law school exams don’t really get in the way of blogging.

550. Bart - November 20, 2007

Megan once shot a man law student for snoring wanting to be a lawyer.

551. Bart - November 20, 2007

I found a link to his Howard Dead photoshops…

Yeah, photoshops were a hoot, especially of moonbats, weren’t they?

But that’s what I mean. Way back in the early 2000’s, this internet thing was still novel and fresh. Now it’s old hat. All the funny pictures, all the cutesy sayings, all the nifty emoticons are as stale as Sid Caesar’s Vaudeville act.

552. See-Dub - November 20, 2007

I wish Allah had more of a chance to do long-form investigative stuff and photoshops. That’s what made him famous, but I think he feels a lot of (self-imposed) pressure to keep the news rolling out on time. And if they’re going to challenge Drudge, he needs to keep the news coming.

Obviously, I’m a huge fan, but sometimes I wonder if he’d still be able to take down Rather from where he sits now.

553. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

551:
Part of it, Imho, is that many on the right are just tired right now. Many don’t seem too interested in winning next year, and actually seem to want to lose for some weird reason (like Malkin and her stooges at Hot Air). And I agree that this moninating process has opened up a lot of wounds that had been festering for a while. The SoCons want to lose if Rudy gets the nomination, yet the FiCons don’t want anybody (it seems), and the other Cons (lump them how you may) just have no ideas.

Sadly, a lot of people in the dextrosphere may be depp down wanting a Hillary Presidency so that they can get fired up and united again.

554. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

552:
No. He’s under pressure from Malkin, who I find to be as big of an embarassment to the right as Ann Coulter. She cannot take a joke, takes herself too seriously, and runs behind the “don’t hit a girl” line when her targets fire back.

Oh, and her actions leading up to last year’s election were not cool either, especially with her “I’m sitting out” act, up until about a week lef in the races.

555. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

And what really pisses me off is that in the midst of all of this infighting that is really getting nasty in some corners on our side, the real threats (Alqaida and Iran) are ignored. And they will be the biggest beneficiaries of a Dem Presidency.

556. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

And one more thing (sorry for the multiple comments. They just hit me after I post), many on the other side view politics and the by any eans necessary acquisition of power to be the ultimate goal, and they wil stop at nothing to get it. It’s like their own religion. It’s similar to the Bolsheviks in this regard. In 1917, all they cared about was obtaining and holding power. The rest, they’ll figure it out as they went. Same with the Dems today. They want power and what will flow from it (Socialized Medicine, for example), but will gladly delay that if it means winning the next election. And their base understands that.

Yet, many on our side, while intensely interested in politics, have other pursuits and realize that even with a Hillary Presidency, the sun will come up tomorrow, though things may be tougher in the short run. And to many on our side, power isn’t viewed as the be all and end all, and we actually expect our politicians to do something, versus the other side.

557. mesablue - November 20, 2007

Nobody is doing humor pieces right now.

You obviously haven’t been over to The Hostages lately, that’s all we do. Crappy fourth grade humor, but all the same — teh funny.

558. Sobek - November 20, 2007

Not funny – absolutely freakin terrifying: http://moralauthority.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/creepy/

559. Megan - November 20, 2007

[smirks] Clinton? You think SHE’s scary?

560. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

^that is what is scary. And yet, too many on our side are fighting each other.

561. Sobek - November 20, 2007

This song is beautiful:

Catherine Wheel had such a signature sound on their first two albums, and lost it by the third (which was not without its charm, but less unique).

562. mesablue - November 20, 2007
563. See-Dub - November 20, 2007

Eddiebear, being (on and off) one of the Hotair crew (and occupying one of their old blogs) I’m obviously not going to agree with you too much there. I don’t think that Allah’s been gelded–after all, if you’re just after the numbers for a conservative site, why post so many pro-atheism rants? I have no insight into this but I think MM just asks him to keep the content PG-rated. It’s not a grievous burden.

As for Michelle, yes she’s uncompromising and can sometimes be strident. But you can’t lump her into your comment 556; there’s nothing squishy about her and she’s not pulling any punches on any of the candidates. Disagree with her positions, or the way she expresses them, but I hope you’ll agree with me that her integrity is beyond reproach.

564. Megan - November 20, 2007

[sneers] Michelle has no integrity. The only thing she has an unlimited amount of is stupidity.

565. Megan - November 20, 2007

Don’t ever fuckin’ dare to annoy me by complimenting that stupid fuckin’ bitch innacuratately again. Under-fuckin’-stood?

566. Sobek - November 20, 2007

That’s a good one too, Mesa. From the third album, Happy Days.

567. Sobek - November 20, 2007

Megan, refresh my recollection: are you Mary Landrieu’s niece?

568. See-Dub - November 20, 2007

Well, sorry to annoy you, Megan, but my assessment stands. My history with her goes back to before I started blogging and she calls them like she sees them. I’d expect you could admire that, at least.

569. mesablue - November 20, 2007

I just like the title.

It inspired me to post this — http://thewickedpinto.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/married-life-rosetta-style/

570. Megan - November 20, 2007

Sobek – yes.

SD – I admire nothing about Malkin. She has some of the worst political instincts on this coast.

She is, quite simply, a fucking idiot.

571. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

see-dub:

My problem with her dates back to last year and her almost sanguine response to our loss. She seems to be a little to happy with the prospects of a defeat next year. Maybe an excuse to plug another book. But the damage that she has done by yielding 2008 to Hillary is sad. She is like the fools at redstate who seem intent on hoping for a defeat so that The Man On The White Horse will arrive in 2012 or 2016.

572. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

megan:

and when Malkin is called out, she retreats to the “you can’t hit a girl” meme. She needs to learn to let stuff roll off her back if she wants to take on Kos and the DUmmies. Yet, she can never let an insult pass. Hell, I hear worse every day from my wife than the stuff she cries about from the kossacks.

Kinda makes me glad Ace beat her for the Wizbang award.

573. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

And see-dub: I am a poster at Inside Cable News, one of the “gossip blogs” she blasted regarding her departure from FNC. If she can’t take the heat from a clown like geraldo, why is she attacking from the safety of a modem?

574. Megan - November 20, 2007

eddiebear:

Though I’ll go with “don’t hit a girl” shit from time to time, I don’t agree with it when it comes to Malkin. She doesn’t deserve that consideration.

575. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

^no, my problem is that she throws a bomb, then retreats behind that line, ala RWS, when her targets at Kos respond.

576. Megan - November 20, 2007

eddiebear: “If she can’t take the heat from a clown like geraldo, why is she attacking from the safety of a modem?”

FUCKIN’ NICE, man.

577. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

oh, and the losers at redstate have banned me twice for pointing out to them the folly of their “we want to lose in 2008” platform.

578. Megan - November 20, 2007

Hey. You don’t want to fuckin’ talk about RWS with me.

579. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

megan:
hell, that’s why she quit FNC. And then when the internet talked about it, she got mad about that as well. She has no sense of humor and takes herself too seriously.

580. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

in 579, I meant Malkin.

581. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

anyway, I hafta get some sleep.

582. Megan - November 20, 2007

…still talking about RWS? Because I can get REALLY incredibly pissed off if you talk shit about her.

She’s a lovely person, she has a wonderful sense of humor, and she’s one of the most humble people I’ve ever known.

Do not ever contradict me on this fact or I will simply kill you.

583. Megan - November 20, 2007

579: Oh, you were talking about Malkin.

Sorry, dude. In that case I agree with you on pretty much every point.

I’m not going to kill you; rest easy.

584. Megan - November 20, 2007

H’m.

Eh… I still won’t kill eddiebear. I like kinda him.

585. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

ok. Never mind. I retract the RWS line.

586. See-Dub - November 20, 2007

Eddie–she didn’t quit FNC, she quit O’Reilly, and good riddance to him. She’s appeared on FNC since then. And that was a principled stance; you shouldn’t have to work where some twit like Geraldo threatens to spit on you. I don’t care if that’s dismissed as “political theater” or whatever; spitting on women is out of bounds. And perish the thought that she should defend herself.

I do see your point about waiting for the man on the white horse to ride in and win the primary. I’m resigned to the fact that my policy preferences are to the mostly to the right of most of the country, and picked a candidate who I think gets the big questions and can win.

But there’s something to be said for making him take a stand:

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/19/memo-to-abc-nytimes-terri-schiavo-was-not-brain-dead/

587. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

megan:
I grow on people. Like a fungus.
Night.
The Little Princess stirs.

588. Megan - November 20, 2007

Good boy.

H’m.

Eh… nah, I admit it’s tempting, but I I won’t kill eddiebear. I do like him.

589. daveintexas - November 20, 2007

Malkin’s book on internment was pretty good. Not new, but new in its time, and a necessary message.

RWS…

*puts leaves over the trap

590. Bart - November 20, 2007

I can’t believe the animosity toward Malkin expressed by eddie.

I simply cannot fucking believe it. And to say that she’s an embarrassment to the Right…like Ann Coulter?!?!?

Do you know who’s an embarrassment to the Right?

George Bush
Dick Cheney
Susan Collins
John McCain
Chuck Hagel

…and many many more. Both Coulter and Malkin are assets to the Conservative movement. Eddie, you criticize Malkin for wanting to send a message to the Republicans that they can either shape up or they will be shipped out. Those politicians work for us. Those politicians take orders from us. We don’t have to settle for the “best we can get” from this sorry bunch of losers — we can do better.

Without Malkin and Coulter, the GOP would be a bunch of moderate do-nothings willing to compromise with every stupid proposal made by the Dems.

591. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

^Bart, maybe we can do better, but we do a hell of a lot worse with Hillary! running the show. You accomplish nothing in the minority. Or, is it the hope that she’ll do such a horrible job and The Savior will break through the wall the MSM will erect to protect her?
No, I have no animosity. It’s more along the lines of frustration with her and those who seem to deliberately want to lose.

592. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

And besides, the sit out crowd has set such a high standard that NOBODY who could win will ever be acceptable enough to them.

593. kevlarchick - November 20, 2007

Me? I love Michael Savage. His shtick is a hoot.

594. daveintexas - November 20, 2007

that’s awwwl

595. Bart - November 20, 2007

We don’t want to lose!!!

We want to straighten out these crooked politicians. At least we have national voices (on our side) holding these varmints (on our side) accountable for their actions.

Our Republican congress did nothing since 1997 and we waited, what, 8 years until some of us finally noticed we had drunken bums running Washington?

We let them get away with lousy legislation, insane spending bills, no accomplishments on border security or voter fraud, and awful compromises for way too long. We were happy to have control of Congress and we trusted them to do the right thing. All the while they sticking it up our asses.

596. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

^and Hillary would make things better how?

597. Mark Foley - November 20, 2007

That was very hurtful, Bart.

598. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

Bart:
You say you din’t want to lose, yet you repeat the meme the sit out crowd voices. Then what are your solutions?

If you dislike your candidates, get a better one to win the primary.

599. Mr Minority - November 20, 2007

I don’t mind MM too much, she can be a little obtuse at times, but never the less, she isn’t that bad.

As for Ann Coulter – I HEART Ann Coulter!

I believe the “sit it outers” need a swift kick in the ass, to wake them up to what they are doing to our country by being wussies. If sHillary wins because of those assholes were upset that their candidate didn’t win the nomination, and didn’t vote, I will personally bitch slap each and every one of them, with a spiked glove. That is how much I can’t stand people that put their petty agendas before the security of our nation.

And I am saying this as a pro-life SoCon Evangelical Christian Fred! supporter, that would vote for Rudy or Mitt if it came down to it.

600. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

MM:
amen! I have been banging my head against the wall dealing with those who think a Rudy vote is a sin, so they will let Hillary appoint 3 or 4 new Supremes who will perpetuate Roe V Wade for at least another 40 years.

601. Cathy - November 20, 2007

Ditto Mr. Min and EB.
I’m puttin on cowboy boots ta hep kick.

On a sweeter note…Pie!
Whole pecans sittin on the kitchen granite waitin for the love that’l magically get them into a pie.

Soon.

602. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

My mom just gutted the pumpkins for her pumpkin pie Thursday. MMMMMMM…..

603. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

Funny how pie can settle anybody down.

604. Mr Minority - November 20, 2007

Hmmmmm, hot, home made pecan pie!

With a glob of Bluebell Vanilla ice cream next to it.

605. daveintexas - November 20, 2007

*eyes roll back into head*

606. Retired Geezer - November 20, 2007

And I am saying this as a pro-life SoCon Evangelical Christian Fred! supporter, that would vote for Rudy or Mitt if it came down to it.

Preach it, Brother.

I ain’t sittin’ this dance out. I’ll pull the ‘R’ lever no matter who we nominate.

Didn’t Ross Perot cost us the election?

607. See-Dubya - November 20, 2007

Didn’t Nader cost them the election?

Um, that other election, you know?

608. Bart - November 20, 2007

Nobody wants Hillary, or any Dem, to win. You’re completely missing the point of the criticism. Nominating Rudy or any moderate is going in the wrong direction and will take the GOP over the cliff. Rudy has no conservative values. None. Maybe we can change that — by forcing Rudy to change.

Haven’t you noticed that the more we squawk the more the candidates move to the Right? And when we are silent they are either do nothing or take their orders from the Dems? These politicians need prodding and beatings from time to time to keep them in line. Otherwise, they try to keep us, their bosses, in line.

eddie, we’re trying to shape our politicians rather than letting them shape us.

609. Mr Minority - November 20, 2007

we’re trying to shape our politicians rather than letting them shape us.

Yes we are, that is what the primaries are for. But not to support the Republican candidate, whom ever it may be, is wrong.

610. eddiebear - November 20, 2007

Bart:

I agree with you. We do need to let them know how we feel. In that, I agree 111%. It’s just that the threats EVRY SINGLE ELECTION by certain factions in our side just become frustrating and tiresome, especially given who and what we are facing.

611. sandy burger - November 20, 2007

What the hell happened in here?

612. Bart - November 20, 2007

It’s the chili, sandy. It’s Satan’s favorite dish. Pure evil.

613. Michael - November 20, 2007

What the hell happened in here?

Megan showed up.

614. geoff - November 20, 2007

And what’s up with you, Sandy? You hardly ever come around anymore.

615. Muslihoon - November 20, 2007

You don’t write, you don’t call, you don’t visit…

616. Mr Minority - November 20, 2007

Yeah what’s up Sandy?

Don’t you love us anymore?

Are you done with us, and just going to throw us away like a used kleenex?

617. lauraw - November 20, 2007

*blows nose on Mr. Minority’s jacket sleeve*

OH.

SORRY.

618. the amish abide - November 20, 2007

Fuck im bored. Think i may watch a movie:

http://tinyurl.com/3x8vrx

619. Mr Minority - November 21, 2007

*blows nose on Mr. Minority’s jacket sleeve*

Laura, I will keep that and cherish it forever.

*pisses on Laura’s tubers*

620. Dave in Texas - November 21, 2007

What the hell happened in here?

Nobody sees the train wreck coming. It just happens.

621. wiserbud - November 21, 2007

Happy Thanksgiving, you freaks!

622. sandy burger - November 21, 2007

I’ve just been a little busy lately, that’s all.

But anyhow, like the wiser man says, Happy Thanksgiving, internet weirdos!

623. Megan - November 23, 2007

Ugh, I spent the last few days at the CDC. After an average of 4 decontaminations and 8 hours a day in the labs, I feel like I’ve spent over $5k on exfoliations. Though at a really brutal spa. I’ve had to scrub down so often it’s almost painful to type.

You know you’ve been up way too long when you’re using a probe microscope on a degenerating organ sample, and when you lean back to stretch out the kinks in your neck, your first thought is, “Say… it’s Thanksgiving, isn’t it? That sort of looks like turkey. I could go for some turkey tonight.”

624. Bart - November 23, 2007

Find any cures?

Or did you just waste more of our tax dollars?

625. Michael - November 23, 2007

^
Bart, that remark belongs in the IB Commenters Hall of Fame™.

If we had one.

626. Megan - November 23, 2007

Bart: “Find any cures? Or did you just waste more of our tax dollars?”

The latter. We couldn’t identify possible epidemiological vectors, or even establish the exact provenance of what we were examining.

627. Michael - November 23, 2007

So, Megan, as I am one of the 10% of Americans who pay 80% of the tax bill, you owe me a nickel.

628. Megan - November 23, 2007

As I’m in the top 1%, I think it works out more to something like you owing me twenty bucks. You can buy me a martini.

629. Megan - November 23, 2007

I’m off for a while to shoot up some demons in HG:L. Back later.

630. Michael - November 24, 2007

You can buy me a martini.

OK. The next time I’m in D.C., I’ll buy you one of those ridiculous expensive chocolate martinis that you deviants seem to enjoy.

Or, you can show up at the IBSBP, and I’ll make it myself. On my new granite countertop.

631. Megan - November 24, 2007

Actually, I prefer the coffee martinis at Felix.

632. Megan - November 24, 2007

sandy burger: “What the hell happened in here?”
Michael: “Megan showed up.”

See what I meant?

My last exec used to say:

“Just follow the mushroom clouds.”

633. Megan - November 24, 2007

“Subtle” isn’t a word in my vocabulary.

634. Megan - November 24, 2007

As I left Atlanta yesterday:

Random general, muttering under his breath: “Well, wasn’t that a fuckin’ waste of time…”
Me: “Hey, I’m not the mechanic here, motherfucker. I mostly just hurt people.”
Random general: “…sorry, ma’am.”

Alien Resurrection quotes are never out of place.

635. Megan - December 2, 2007

Yet

http://www.thepitftw.com/index.php?showtopic=2393&view=findpost&p=206321

more

http://www.thepitftw.com/index.php?showtopic=2393&view=findpost&p=206411

gay

http://www.thepitftw.com/index.php?showtopic=2393&view=findpost&p=206527

shit.

http://www.thepitftw.com/index.php?showtopic=2393&view=findpost&p=206787

And even more on the next page, if you aren’t already bored to tears. As I was, two sentences into it.

If AIDS was a Heaven-sent plague to rid us of homosexuality, God knows it did a piss poor job of it.

[sigh]

636. Michael - December 2, 2007

Megan, if you put more than two links in one comment, it will be held for approval. It’s an anti-spam measure.

637. Megan - December 2, 2007

[licks her finger and holds it up to the wind]

Butters, do I look like I care? It was hardly time-critical. Approve it if you want, don’t if you don’t.

638. Megan - December 2, 2007

…yeah, sorry, that was snarky. Thanks for the heads-up, Michael. I didn’t know that.

639. Bart - December 2, 2007

I was just wondering where Megans was.

And here she is, spamming us with gay propaganda.

640. Megan - December 2, 2007

It’s *anti*-gay propaganda.

Don’t ruin my good name, Bart.

641. Bart - December 2, 2007

It’s *anti*-gay propaganda.

*Bart’s ears perk up*

Oh, in that case, niiiiiiiice. I’ll check it out after I watch this vid of a thai girl entertaining herself with a balloon and popping it with her butt.

642. Megan - December 2, 2007

[blandly] Take your time. I’ll just keep watching this He-Man and She-Ra cartoon in the meanwhile.

643. tent air conditioner - June 24, 2008

yrnce wauz iafht lteoxuw

644. Muslihoon - June 24, 2008

Sorry, I am unaware of this language. Please translate or identify its source. Diolchau.

645. BrewFan - June 24, 2008

I believe they are speaking spamish…

646. Muslihoon - June 24, 2008

Oh.

I wonder…if someone says it backwards, will it open up a portal to Hell?


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