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We’re Number 51! November 28, 2007

Posted by skinbad in News.
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Yewts are feelin’ mightly low. Utah ranks dead-last in depressed people.

Michael? Eddie? R.G.? Lipstick and Sobek? Sorry for you as well. The bottom ten: Wyoming, Ohio, Missouri, Idaho, Oklahoma, Nevada, Rhode Island, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Utah.

I had my own angle on the study, but realized lack of Spurwing Plover and Wickedpinto comments would affect all states equally. So I had to toss that theory.

I guess I come here for therapy sometimes. Thanks for that.

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1. eddiebear - November 28, 2007

If this is therapy, I want a refund.

Actually, I’m feeling good. The only thing I dislike about MO is the extreme weather shifts and the lack of daylight this time of year.

2. Michael - November 28, 2007

I had my own angle on the study

Yeah, me too. I would have assumed that states with high populations of Lutherans would fare well, but there is no clear pattern. Minnesota does well, but Missouri does poorly.

We’ll get this sorted out during the Lutheran Millenium™, after which, everyone will be Lutheran following their benign internship in the reeducation camps.

3. Mr Minority - November 28, 2007

I would have assumed that states high populations of Lutherans would fare well,…

What do you mean, dude? They are the most depressed bunch, and why wouldn’t they be?

“Oh, wowzy, another Sunday of boring sermons and Lutheran Casserole. Whoopy!”

I bet at Lutheran churches they spike the water fountains with Prozac.

4. eddiebear - November 28, 2007

But are the Lutherans in Minnesota a different branch from Missouri? Missouri is the home of the Missouri Synod, FWIW (and I have no clue what the difference is, since I’m Catholic).

5. Michael - November 28, 2007

But are the Lutherans in Minnesota a different branch from Missouri?

Well, yeah, you mostly got moderate Scandi ELCA Lutherans in Minnesota, which are a somewhat different breed from the very conservative German-based Missouri Synod.

I’m Scandi-ELCA on my mother’s side of the family (Swedish Augustana Lutherans, to be precise), and German-Mo. Synod on my father’s side (not just any Germans, but Saxons). So, you see, I have a very heterogeneous family background.

6. Muslihoon - November 28, 2007

Well, LCMS (The Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod) is spread all over the US. My understanding is that the inclusion of “Missouri” (for LCMS) and “Wisconsin” (The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod) are for historical rather than jurisdictional reasons.

Our Lutheran Overlord will be able to provide more details, surely.

7. Michael - November 28, 2007

Musli is correct — the “Missouri” (LCMS) and “Wisconsin” (WELS) designations are historical only. They are both national church bodies, with international affiliations.

It is frequently discussed that they should adopt less parochial names (like ELCA, the “Evangelical Lutheran Church in America”), but it never happens due to sentimental attachment to the historical names.

8. BrewFan - November 28, 2007

moderate Scandi ELCA Lutherans

Ha! The ELCA (church government, not the individual churches) is anything but moderate in the theological sense of the term. They have moved beyond having any regard for the authority of the scriptures. They are now in the ‘we’ll just make it up as we go along’ phase of handling doctrinal issues.

9. Retired Geezer - November 28, 2007

I totally read that chart wrong. I thought that Utahonians and Idahodians were ranked in the top ten “non-depressed” states.

10. eddiebear - November 28, 2007

Thanks for the insight. Believe it or not, I really don’t pay much attention to different branches of the various confessions out there. Hell, I have enough trouble keeping track of Catholicism. IIRC, the LCMS World HQ share the same space as St. John Vianney HS, which is Catholic and the regional HQ (I dunno if it’s just the Midwest or all of the USA) for the Brothers of Mary (The Marianists).
Oh, and there is an awesome lake on the LCMS HQ grounds.

11. Michael - November 28, 2007

IIRC, the LCMS World HQ share the same space as St. John Vianney HS

Yep. Cathy used to work there as a systems analyst in the IT department. The building looks very impressive as you drive by on I-40, because the wall facing the highway goes right into the lake that you mentioned.

Among Lutherans, that building is known as the “Purple Palace.”

12. Michael - November 28, 2007

Vianney is reputedly a pretty good school, BTW. We were thinking about sending Son Michael there, but moved out of St. Louis before it became an issue. I hate to say it, but Vianney looked like a better choice than Lutheran South. We lived in the city, and St. Louis public schools are not an option.

13. Michael - November 28, 2007

Cathy, BTW, graduated from UMSL with a major in Computer Stuff, rather unusual for a female at the time. Her class rank was #2.

14. daveintexas - November 28, 2007
15. eddiebear - November 29, 2007

UMSL has experienced explosive growth in the last 15 years or so. Their IT, Honors, Optometry and Engineering (in conjunction with Washington U) are top drawer. They have expanded beyond belief and boast an awesome new performing arts center, the Touhill Performing Arts Something or other, draws internationally acclaimed acts.

As for Vianney, it too has expanded (my nephew is in 7th grade now and eyeing HS. They feature one brother, Brother Mel, who is a kick ass artist and sculptor. In fact, we attended a trivia night a few years ago at Vianney where some of his works were on silent auction for fundraising. My BIL’s friend bought a crucifix Bro Mel had made. Here is his site:
http://www.melsmart.com/main.php

And finally, I can relate to your situation regarding High Schools. Lutheran South has expanded. I know, because I drive past it every day on my way to the saltmines. But when I was in 8th grade, the decision to attend SLUH was made for me by my father. Sadly, STL is a town where the answer to “where did you go to High School” can impact your life years down the road. And knowing the tradition, connections and reach that the Jesuits have with SLUH would help me make connections. Add to that the fact his eldest son was and is ADDHD and easily bored and distracted (hell, just look at my postings here, at AoS and at my own little hovel and you can tell) with the pace of normal schooling, Pops realized I needed to be worked damn near to death to keep me out of trouble. And the Jesuits bragged that they offered such a cure. Sure enough, between Honors courses, baseball and cross country, I was worked like a cooley. But it helped keep me out of trouble. And for that, I am eternally grateful. Hell, undergrad and even most of Grad School were laughably easy.

Sorry I threadjacked a bit.

16. Dave in Texas - November 29, 2007

People in New Jersey and Illinois are less depressed than Texans?

This thing is total bullshit.

17. Russ from Winterset - November 29, 2007

Iowa’s ranked #4? Yeah, right. We’ve got the most national politicians per capita right now of all the 51 States/Territories, and they think we’re happier than all but 3 States? Bullshit.

And South Dakota? They’re only ranked #1 because all the nitrates in their water give a slight medicating effect while the stuff is poisoning you.

18. lauraw - November 29, 2007

The four measures were: (1) the percentage of the adult population experiencing at least one major depressive episode in the past year, (2) the percentage of the adolescent population (ages 12 to 17) experiencing at least one major depressive episode in the past year, (3) the percentage of the adult population experiencing serious psychological distress, and (4) the average number of days in the past 30 days in which the population reported that their mental health was not good.

Might I suggest that the ‘data’ backing up the chart is a load of completely shifty, qualitative bullshit?

19. lauraw - November 29, 2007

I think I used the word qualitative wrong. What’s the word I meant to use?

20. composmentis - November 29, 2007

um, fucking?

21. lauraw - November 29, 2007

You’re a mensch, compos.

Might I suggest that the ‘data’ backing up the chart is a load of completely shifty fucking bullshit?

Ahhh so much better.

22. composmentis - November 29, 2007

Happy to oblige deary.

23. Retired Geezer - November 29, 2007

Utah, Idaho and Texas are ranked at the bottom.

*lip trembles slightly*

Me and DinT and Skinbad are so happy.

I hate you Pollsters, I hate your ass face!

24. composmentis - November 29, 2007

Don’t sweat it Geez. 65% of all statistics are wrong.

Besides, all we really need to do is spread the love that is Innocent Bystanders to all those depressed souls and they’ll be right as rain.

25. Russ from Seventh Son - November 29, 2007

I see that Nevada is ranked as the second worst state in the Union for suicide. I wonder how the numbers would look if you broke down the in-state numbers to “Las Vegas Metro Area” and “other”?

26. Russ from Winterset - November 29, 2007

Crap, I’ve gotta learn to check my name before posting.

27. skinbad - November 29, 2007

I think I used the word qualitative wrong. What’s the word I meant to use?

I think you’re using “qualitative” in exactly the right way. “Quantitative” is numbers you can measure. Qualitative things, like how depressed you feel, get numbers attached to them in an attempt to measure.

It is somewhat of a stunner that studies by mental health professionals reveal an acute need for more mental health professionals.

28. eddiebear - November 29, 2007

Russ:
And do those stats involve “legitimate businessmen” eliminating the competition?

29. Dave in Texas - November 29, 2007

Now now, just lie back on the couch and tell Dr. Dave what’s troubling you.

30. eddiebear - November 29, 2007

It’s those damn trucks!!!!111!!1

31. Sobek - November 29, 2007

Nevada would actually be the happiest state, except that I’m single-handedly bringing the rest of us down.

At least that’s the conclusion that I, as a non-gambler, must reach after seeing how happy all the casino patrons are in those glamorous commercials.

32. eddiebear - November 29, 2007

^And the gamblers always look so young, clean and well groomed.

33. Retired Geezer - November 29, 2007

And the gamblers always look so young, clean and well groomed.

*gets an instant visual flashback of typical slot-a-holic, working the poker machine at the 7/11 while their toddlers stand around*

34. Mr Minority - November 29, 2007

The reason Texans are not depressed is, if we get depressed we go out and shoot a Liberal. Depression is gone, and we rid the state of Liberals. Viola!

35. composmentis - November 29, 2007

Now now, just lie back on the couch and tell Dr. Dave what’s troubling you.

Well doc, I havie a recurring dream where this guy’s wearing nothing but a black cowboy hat, boots, and a gun belt standing next to a swimming pool filled with banana pudding. When he’s just about to show me what’s in his holster, the dream gets weird. In place of his yoohoo, he has not one but two twelve guage shotguns.

Help me doc. Do I . . . do I have . . . Shotgun Envy??

36. skinbad - November 29, 2007

3 inch mag does not sound as manly as it otherwise would in Compos’ dream scenario.

37. Dave in Texas - November 29, 2007

you’re suffering from diphallic shotgunna

38. composmentis - November 29, 2007

Can I get rid of that with penicillin?

39. Matt - March 4, 2009

Hi

Did you know that you’re a Googlewhack?

Matt


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