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Open Thread January 25, 2008

Posted by Sobek in Lurkers.

Go ahead.  Talk amongst yourselves.

About anything you like.  Relax; I won’t force anyone to stay on-topic.


1. eddiebear - January 25, 2008

Ron Paul!!!!11!1!!

2. eddiebear - January 25, 2008

Wait! You mean threads here are supposed to be on topic?

3. Sobek - January 25, 2008

Not this one, Eddie. Feel free to talk about anything you want.

Anything at all.

4. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

Whom do you former Fredheads now support? Most seem to be leaning towards Romney.

And: Om bhurbhava svaha; tat savitur varenyam; bhargo devasya dheemahi; dheeyo yonah prachodayat. There’s your Eastern wisdom for tonight (and I wrote it by memory).

5. PattyAnn - January 25, 2008

Eddie, would you please post those recipes?

6. Sobek - January 25, 2008

According to the polls I’ve seen, Musli, about 50% or better are going for Romney, with the rest split between Giuliani, McCain, Huck, and stay at home/write-in.

7. Lipstick - January 25, 2008

Musli, I’m leaning toward Rudy. I want a hard-ass in office. One who will come in and get rid of all the Clinton holdouts that Bush was too “compassionate” to fire.

8. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

And you, Sobek?

9. Not Tushar D - January 25, 2008

I have been meaning to write this comment for a while. Weird timing, considering the unwanted guest we have had. I must point out that this post was NOT written by Tushar D.

So, here goes.
I travel on a commuter train daily, and when you are sitting in an isle seat, your choice is to either stare at your shoelaces, or lift your eyes up and watch the back of the seat in front of you. When you do that, your eyes are level with the butts of people walking through the isles. Now, anyone can easily tell between male butts and female butts. But I realized the other day that I can instinctively tell if a woman is white, black, hispanic, Asian (as in Chinese) or Indian, just by looking at the …you know….kaboose. I am right more than 90% of the time. I guess you can tell by the combination of walking style, clothes choice, shape and …um… size.

Is this normal, or am I some kind of freak?

10. Tushar D - January 25, 2008

Muslihoon, straight from Gayatri Mantra? And not one mistake. I am impressed!

11. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

Yes, Tush! Thank you.

12. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

BTW: it’s quite possible to tell a person’s race from his/her rear. Even from their pattern/shape of overweightedness, if that makes sense.

13. lauraw - January 25, 2008

Aww man. What timing. I won’t be back in manic newshound mode for hours yet.

14. Sobek - January 25, 2008

Not sure. Dream ticket would have been Thompson/Romney, because I’m concerned that Thompson is too old to run for pres after eight years as veep, and because eight years of Romney in the veep slot would give him exposure, time to demonstrate his conservative bona fides, and to avoid another primary like this year.

I have issues with all of the candidates. I would certainly vote Romney or Giuliani. Then I guess it’s McCain, Huck, Paul. If it comes down to any of those last three, I’ll be borderline suicidal, but I can’t commit to a “stay at home” or “vote for the Dem” vote, because of the Supreme Court picks.

15. Train Commuter - January 25, 2008

Help!! Brown men keep staring at my ass!

16. eddiebear - January 25, 2008

I can do the Stroganoff by memory. Here it is:
at least 2 or 3 lbs of meatballs (make your own or buy the premade. Your choice)
1 normal can of cream of onion soup
1 normal can of cream of mushroom
1 to 1 1/2 lb of mushrooms
1 onion cut up
Some ground pepper (to taste)
Egg noodles (to your quantity and posrtion desire)
1 8 oz thing of sour cream
1 8 oz thing of cream cheese
Put the meat, soups, onion and pepper in a crock pot in the morning. Let it cook for 8 hrs on low. After 8 hours, start cooking the egg noodles to al dente. When they are finished, stir in the cream cheese and sour cream in the crock pot with the other stuff. When the cream cheese and sour cream ae mixed in to your liking, stop.
Drain the pasts and put it on your plate. Then put the stroganoff on the noodles.

Spaghetti Bolognese:
1 tablespoon olive oil
4 ounces bacon or pancetta, cut really thin
some chopped yellow onions
3/4 cup diced carrots
3/4 cup diced celery
1 tablespoon minced garlic
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
2 bay leaves
1/2 teaspoon dried thyme
1/4 teaspoon dried oregano
1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon ground nutmeg
1 or 1 1/2pound ground beef or ground veal
1/2 pound pork sausage, removed from the casings, or ground pork
2 tablespoons tomato paste
1 cup red wine
2 (14 1/2-ounce) cans crushed tomatoes and their juice
1 (14 1/2-ounce) can tomato sauce
1 cup beef or chicken stock or broth
2 teaspoons sugar
1/4 cup heavy cream
2 tablespoons unsalted butter
3 tablespoons chopped fresh parsley leaves
1 pound spaghetti
1 cup freshly grated Parmesan

In a large pot, heat the oil over medium-high heat. Add the bacon and cook, stirring, until browned and the fat is rendered, 4 to 5 minutes. Add the onions, carrots and celery and cook, stirring, until soft, 4 to 5 minutes. Add the garlic, salt, pepper, bay leaves, thyme, oregano, cinnamon, and nutmeg and cook, stirring, for 30 seconds. Add the beef and sausages, and cook, stirring, until no longer pink, about 5 minutes. Add the tomato paste and cook, stirring, for 1 to 2 minutes. Add the wine and cook, stirring, to deglaze the pan and remove any browned bits sticking to the bottom of the pan, and until half of the liquid is evaporated, about 2 minutes.
Add the tomatoes and their juices, the tomato sauce, beef broth, and sugar and bring to a boil. Reduce the heat to medium-low and simmer, stirring occasionally, to keep the sauce from sticking to the bottom of the pan, until the sauce is thickened and flavorful, about 1 1/2 hours. Add the cream, butter, and parsley, stir well, and simmer for 2 minutes. Discard the bay leaves and adjust the seasoning, to taste. Remove from the heat and cover to keep warm until ready to serve.

Meanwhile, bring a large pot of salted water to a boil. Add the pasta and return the water to a low boil. Cook, stirring occasionally to prevent the noodles from sticking, until al dente, 8 to 10 minutes. Drain in a colander.

Add the pasta to the sauce, tossing to coat. Add 1/2 cup of the cheese and toss to blend. Divide among pasta bowls and serve with the cheese passed tableside. (Alternatively, toss only the desired portion of pasta with a bit of the sauce at a time in a serving bowl, reserving the remainder for another meal.)

I had to have my wife email me the spaghetti, as I don’t know everything by heart on that one.

17. compos mentis - January 25, 2008

Does Allah have a middle name? And what is his last name? I’d like to start yelling something other than Jesus H. Christ when I hurt myself.

18. compos mentis - January 25, 2008

Damn. I’m sleepy. I meant mohammed.

19. PattyAnn - January 25, 2008

Thanks, Eddie! Sound great!

20. Sobek - January 25, 2008

You can always use Shiva H. Vishnu (blatantly stolen from the Simpsons).

Arab names don’t work the same way European names do. His father’s name was Abdullah, so one formal name is Muhammad bin Abdullah, so you could yell “Muhammad B. Abdullah!” He also had a son named Abdullah, so you could yell “Muhammad A. Abdullah!”

21. Dave in Texas - January 25, 2008

I want a hard-ass in office.

Thanks dear, but I’m kinda busy.

22. Sobek - January 25, 2008

Or if you want something more authentically Arabic, you can yell “wan-NUBee” (lit. “by the prophet”).

23. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

Abu-l-Qasim Muhammad al-Mustafa ibn Abdullah.

24. PattyAnn - January 25, 2008


25. compos mentis - January 25, 2008

How about Mohammed P. Diddy?

Am I out of order?

26. compos mentis - January 25, 2008

Musli, I like it. By the time I get that out, the pain will be gone or I’ll have passed out.

27. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

Er, what Sobek said.

How about Imam Abu-l-Abdillah al-Hussayn Sayyid ash-Shuhada’ bin Ali al-Murtaza bin Abi Talib?

Or, my favorite: Imam Abu-l-Qasim Muhammad al-Mahdi bin al-Hassan al-‘Askari bin ‘Ali al-Hadi bin Muhammad at-Taqi bin ‘Ali ar-Riza bin Musa-l-Kazim bin Ja’far as-Sadiq bin Muhammad al-Baqir bin ‘Ali Zayn al-‘Abidin bin al-Hussayn Sayyid ash-Shuhada’ bin ‘Ali al-Murtaza bin Abi Talib alayhi-s-salam.

By the time you’re done, you’ll forget what caused this litany of the Twelver Imams (all strung as the predecessors of the supposed current, hidden Imam).

Just don’t choose the Nizari Ismaili line of the imamate: the current imam is the 49th imam. That will be a very, very long name indeed. (Trivia: Nizari Ismailis recite the names of every one of their imams three times a day, during each of their daily prayers.)

28. compos mentis - January 25, 2008

Pattyann said the queen mother of all curse words. ^

29. Mr Minority - January 25, 2008

How about Mohammed P. Diddy?

Am I out of order?

thanks Compi, now they are rioting in LA.

30. Lipstick - January 25, 2008

Thanks dear, but I’m kinda busy.

But your country needs you!

Dave N. Texas for president!

31. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

Mr M.: And in Mecca and Baghdad and Peshawar…

32. Tushar D - January 25, 2008

>>Nizari Ismailis recite the names of every one of their imams three times a day

In a few hundred years, Nizari Ismailis will be able to do nothing but say those names all day. Then they will be known as Nizari Non-smileys.

33. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

LOL, Tush!

امام علي المرتضى ابن ابي طالب

34. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

Er, oops. Sorry about the Arabic. Was testing something out.

35. Abu-l-Qasim Waldo al-Mustafa ibn Abdullah - January 25, 2008

Hah! Imthe twelfth Imam! you’ll never find me bitches!

36. Mr Minority - January 25, 2008

Since Fred! (PBOH) is out, I decided that I am going to back Mitt.

My Ranking is as follows:

1 – Mitt

2 – Rudy

3 – Johnny Mac

1,297 – the Huckster

1.2466 x E12 – Ron Paul

37. dr4 - January 25, 2008

Im staying home. Fred was the last chance the Republican party had to get me to vote for them.

38. Tushar D - January 25, 2008


did you mean to write “Emomali Ibn Abi Taleb Al-Murtada”?

*This comment sponsored by Google Language Services

39. Dex - January 25, 2008

I with Lipstick. Draft Dave!

40. Dave in Texas - January 25, 2008

Limbaugh has been reading me and lauraw’s comments


41. Tushar D - January 25, 2008

>>I with Lipstick. Draft Dave!

Dave for President: He brings a hard ass and soft hands to the ticket.

42. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

Very close, Tush. “Imam ‘Ali al-Murtaza ibn Abi Talib”. Or as it would be pronounced imaam aliyyalmurtaza binabeetaalib. The problem with Arabic is how words run into each other. Quite not Western-user-friendly.

43. Muslihoon - January 25, 2008

Draft Dave!
Dave for President

I heartily agree. He can stone our enemies. With his soft hands.

44. Dave in Texas - January 25, 2008

If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve.

Unless there’s pie. Does this job come with pie?

45. skinbad - January 25, 2008

I liked Fred, but I’ve been in Mitt’s camp since I read a humongously long 5-part (I think) Boston Globe thing on him a few months ago. I’m sure you can find it if you want to. I thought the Globe wasn’t going to be a homer for him in any way and if that series included all the dirt they could dig up on him, he was doing pretty well.

Pretty-boy Olympics savior was all I really knew about him before. Then there was talk in Utah that he would stay and run for governor here, but though he was popular, he would have had a tough time showing he was conservative enough for Utah. Then he moved back to Mass. and ran for governor. Anyway, I came away from the Globe series very impressed with what he’s accomplished.

On the other hand, it sounded like he could have a weakness for analysis paralysis and he certainly does “nuance” his positions which helps him say some stupid-sounding things. I think he does get singled out for a fairly wide-spread political activity there. When I heard Rudy was running, I thought that would be my guy. Like Lipstick, I like the sense of toughness I get from him. My wife was in New York City in the early 80s and we both went in 2000. She couldn’t believe the difference in cleanliness and safety. That says a lot. So, Mitt then Rudy. Don’t make me think about it after that. If Rudy can come from invisible to the nomination, that would be pretty amazing. I’m really surprised that he hasn’t had the money/organization/strategy to be competitive in the early contests.

OK, probably McCain next if forced to.

46. Dex - January 25, 2008

Dave for POTUS, Michael on the SCOTUS. lauraw as Secy of State.
We could do worse.

47. Lipstick - January 25, 2008

Dave N. Texas. The first president to wear a sidearm in the Oval Office.

48. Sobek - January 25, 2008

Sobek for SCOTUS.

Specifically, I want to be nominated to replace Ginsburg. Nothing in this life would make me happier than to take her old office, scrub the scent of patchouli out of it, and turn it into a shrine to hyper-masculine hedonism.

Then, intentionally misquote her opinions when writing my own.

49. Lipstick - January 25, 2008

You know that old hippie bag is just waiting for a dem pres before she retires.

50. Dex - January 25, 2008

I was thinking you for AG, since Michael disqualified himself buying coke in Belize….

And of course Musli for UN Ambassador. If he can grow a ‘stache.

51. Sobek - January 25, 2008

An AG deliberately misquoting Ginsburg when writing legal briefs: sanctionable.

A Supreme Court Justice deliberately misquoting Ginsburg when writing legal briefs: hilarious.

52. Dex - January 25, 2008

I’m just imagining Dave lighting The Crap Tree on the White House lawn at Christmas.

53. Mrs. Peel - January 25, 2008

Can I be head of the Dept of Education? My goal will be to dismantle it completely.

54. Dex - January 25, 2008

If NASA doesn’t have an opening.

55. Dex - January 25, 2008

wow, so this is what “not lurking” feels like…

56. PattyAnn - January 25, 2008

“I’m just imagining Dave lighting The Crap Tree on the White House lawn at Christmas.”

That made me laugh.

57. Michael - January 25, 2008

No, Dex. You will know what “not lurking” feels like when we start ridiculing you.


58. PattyAnn - January 25, 2008

I demand to know if Dex is racist like all the other IBers.

59. Sobek - January 25, 2008

I say we make Dex prove he’s one of us, by saying something derogatory about Tushar and/or Muslihoon.

60. Dex - January 25, 2008

sorry, all humanity is equally worthless to me.

thanks, michael!

Sobek for SCOTUS!

Russ in Winterset for Communications Director!

61. Michael - January 25, 2008

Yeah, Dex, and I want to know if you are going to mock me for wearing a Batman suit. I’ve had enough of that.

Man, it really hurt me when Winston did that. Jeez, some guys just need to do something special in order to get an erection feel good about themselves. One would think that Winston might have been more sensitive about such things.

62. Dex - January 25, 2008

what if I just confess that sometimes I only skim Muslihoon’s posts?

63. Michael - January 25, 2008

Not good enough, Dex. The rest of us completely ignore Muslihoon’s posts.

64. BrewFan - January 25, 2008

I want to be Sec. of HHS like my hero, the real Thompson, was. We’re both from “Wisconsin, where eagles soar, Harleys roar and Packers score!” dontchyaknow.

65. Dex - January 25, 2008

no, but I might for smoking Winstons.

66. BrewFan - January 25, 2008

Dex, a simple “Michael, eat me” will do the trick.

67. PattyAnn - January 25, 2008

I believe I’ve found the Official IBSBP T-shirt.

68. Dex - January 25, 2008

and I only go to Geoff’s for the charts…

69. Michael - January 25, 2008

and I only go to Geoff’s for the charts…

Good judgment there. For God’s sake, don’t start reading his opinions on China. That is madness.

70. Dex - January 25, 2008

WP for SecDef?

71. Mr Minority - January 25, 2008

WP for SecDef?

He would invade every nation, just for hell of it.

72. Tushar D - January 25, 2008

>>He would invade every nation, just for hell of it.

He won’t need to. He will threaten to tell the enemy some true stories, and they would surrender.

73. Dave in Texas for President! « Innocent Bystanders - January 25, 2008

[…] 6. Does not want the job. […]

74. Mrs. Peel - January 25, 2008

So, do you guys ever, on surfing the Internet, run across some random comment you made months ago but have completely forgotten about? If so, do you often find yourself GLAR because it was so funny?

By the way, Dave: read this. Made me sniffle.

75. daveintexas - January 25, 2008

Oh punkin. You don’t have to find things that make me sniffle.

I sniffle every damn day. Dads do that.

One memory. The time eldest mastered Linus and Lucy, and asked me to accompany her on bass at the recital. Goddangit, she kept rushing!

Second memory, playing with an old band, and we did Steve Miller’s “Swingtown”. At 13, she stepped up and kicked out the keyboard part. She did great.

76. Mrs. Peel - January 25, 2008

My dad is never going to make it through my wedding dry-eyed.

77. daveintexas - January 25, 2008

don’t invite me. I wouldn’t either, and that’s kinda embarassing when you’re running for President and all.

send a pic. that’d be cool.

78. Michael - January 25, 2008

I’m going to have an eye examination appointment scheduled for the day when Daughter Michael gets married, so that they put those drops in and I have to wear sunglasses.

79. geoff - January 25, 2008

For God’s sake, don’t start reading his opinions on China. That is madness.

The first taste is free…

80. Lipstick - January 25, 2008

Are Daughter and Boyfriend Michael still together?

81. Michael - January 25, 2008



82. eddiebear - January 26, 2008

I had one of those moments this evening when I put my daughter in her crid. She will be 3 in March, and the thought of putting that thing away and replacing it with a real bed is really killing my wife. Tonight, my daughter fell asleep on the couch, and I carried her to her crib. She is so tall, her head touches one end while her toes touch the other.

And it hit me. Not just that she is already almost 3. Not that she speaks amazingly well and can recite her numbers up to 10. Not a lot of things. But it didn’t hit me how big she is until tonight. And to think, barely 3 years ago, on her first night home, she woke up at 2 AM, and I sat up with her until she settled down. She fit in the crook of my arm that night.

*clears throat*
Oh well. back to bashing trolls at AoS

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