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Thursday Night Dance Party, “Chicks Who Rock” Edition. August 21, 2008

Posted by wintersetruss in Music.

  I’ll go with what I know.  Eighties rock with a smattering of blues mixed in to liven it up.


First out of the gate:  Johnette Napolitano and Concrete Blonde.

  They also did a great version of Leonard Cohen’s “Everybody Knows” on the Sountrack for “Pump Up the Volume”, but I’ve got a rule about mixing Christian Slater movies & music posts.  It’s out there.  Look it up and you won’t be disappointed.

Let’s go classic with the next one:  Joan Jett & the Blackhearts.

  Interesting note:  Back in ’83, when this song was burning up the airwaves, I distinctly remember that all the references to “her” were replaced with “him” in the “RADIO EDIT”.  I guess that society just wasn’t ready for lesbian/bisexual chic yet.  Joan played the Iowa State Fair last year, and she’s still going strong.  If she comes back to Iowa in the near future, I’ll go to the show and see if she’ll autograph my boy Moses’ bare bottom.  THAT would be a picture to show at his high school graduation reception in 2026.


Next up:  The Cowboy Junkies.  Margo Timmins has a beautiful voice, and it’s on display here.

 Back in college, I had a coworker at the University Outdoor Recreation office who played the bejesus out of “The Trinity Sessions” every freakin’ day.  It never got old.


Next:  We go to the “Whatever Happened to…” file and pull out – Martha Davis and the Motels.

  This was the song playing on the radio the first time I ever…………..had a woman tell me “Yeah, well THAT ain’t gonna happen”.  Ah, memories.  I guess that Martha’s still out there on the road, and she got back together with The Motels to play gigs a few years ago.  This is one band that I think should have hit bigger than they did.  Her voice is flawlessly hot.


OK, this isn’t exactly gonna help me hold onto my “man card”, but Dee Lite was always a guilty pleasure.

  It wasn’t so much that I really liked this song, but that a “friend” of mine really liked the song.  I just liked to see her dance to it.  Plus, it’s got Bootsy Collins from Parliament/Funkadelic in the song, so it’s Funktastic!


And in this corner, carrying the pink paisley Telecaster, we’ve got Sue Foley!

  It’s an instrumental, so you can’t hear her sing.  Let’s get her out here for an encore.


What do you think?  One more?  OK, I’ll try.

  It’s not the 80’s, but it is chicks.  And unless I’m grossly mistaken, they are rocking.  So I’m good within the confines of the original concept.  Which is cool.


1. xbradtc - August 21, 2008

Other than the busted links, pretty good. How did I miss the donnas back in the day?

2. Russ from Winterset - August 21, 2008

The Donnas are fairly recent. I just included them because of their rockage.

Refresh your page & check it again. I fixed the Concrete Blonde & MD & The Motels links, so it should be all good now.

3. xbradtc - August 21, 2008

All worky okey dokey…

4. Russ from Winterset - August 21, 2008

More 90’s chick tunes.

5. xbradtc - August 21, 2008

Here’s another.

6. sandy burger - August 21, 2008
7. xbradtc - August 21, 2008

More guilty pleasure pop than rock, but very 80’s…

8. Wickedpinto - August 21, 2008

They also did a great version of Leonard Cohen’s “Everybody Knows” on the Sountrack for “Pump Up the Volume”,

I don’t know about the soundtrack, but in the movie, the recurring use of “everybody knows” was leanard Cohens version, unless, it was one of those songs that was playing in the last 10 minutes, during the jeep drive, on the way to the rally, or whatever the hell it was, then I can see that version slipping in.

I’m all about leanard in the case of that song.

9. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

BTW, mentioning Leanard Cohnm, made me think of this.

An even better version in my opinion, but it’s hard to judge, cuz it’s just too damn good a song.

10. xbradtc - August 22, 2008

Well, wicked, that Juan is certainly a chick, isn’t he?

11. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

I called him “arlo guthrie” throughout the entire competition.

Kid will be great in a coffee house, and on the end of the cock of a hippy pothead.

“I hate him,” mom would say.
“there’s something to him, but I’d never buy his album.”
“you wanna fuck him don’t you?”

Mom’s a sweety.

12. xbradtc - August 22, 2008

I’ve GOT to get back to Indiana and buy you a beer sometime…

13. xbradtc - August 22, 2008

Just turn the sound down on this one…

I think the only performance worse was Britney when she was stoned…


14. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

If I had a beer for everytime someone said that, I’d be a drunk.

Son of a Bitch!

15. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

and Xbrad? You should stab yourself in the face, for recommending that to someone who might have been your friend.

Now? I am your sworn enemy.

16. xbradtc - August 22, 2008

Told ya to turn it down. Sounds bad, but still, great ass.

17. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

If I ever need veggies, I’ll eat her ass after she has a corn on the cob, she prolly takes it down in one swift, and disturbing action.

Back to Jason Castro real quick, after listening to paula’s review, do you think that maybe she is a chief extemporaneous speechwriter for obama?

18. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

and by disturbing, I mean “hot.”

19. xbradtc - August 22, 2008

uhm,,uuh, well, uyummm

20. Michael - August 22, 2008

Huh. “Crimson & Clover” and “Sweet Jane” are based on the exact same chord sequence. Different keys to accommodate the singer, and slightly different rythms, but pretty much the same song. And both good.

21. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

Look at smarty McChorded! mocking us guidards.

I hope you are proud of yourself, you are mocking the disabled.

22. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

HEY! Lets invite dave, so he can make me feel like a basshole!

You guys are meen!

23. Michael - August 22, 2008

Martha Davis and the Motels sounds to me like a cheesy female version of the Alan Parsons Project.

24. Michael - August 22, 2008

OK, I just listened to Dee Lite. Russ, you’re lucky the spam filter doesn’t work on the main page.

25. xbradtc - August 22, 2008

Micheal, I can throw some stuff up that will make Dee Lite sound like a Wagnerian Opera.

26. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

anti-semitic and plagiarized?

27. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

I’m being full of shit, of course.

28. xbradtc - August 22, 2008
29. Michael - August 22, 2008

Dang, Russ really came up with a winner with his last one. It’s hot.

30. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008


31. Michael - August 22, 2008

I hope you are proud of yourself, you are mocking the disabled.

For the record, WP — Yes, I am proud of myself.

32. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008


I’m bored, no baseball tonight, so I’m racking.

Night ya’all.

33. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

Oh, and “chicks who rock.”

The broad from Berlin, I prefer “metro,” to “take my breath away.”

34. PattyAnn - August 22, 2008

WP, Jason Castro is our local boy. I love his version of Hallelujah, but my favorite is his take on Clumsy (he’s a devoted Christian and this video is from his church) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paok3cTY6yU
I like him even if Wiserbud hates him.

35. Mrs. Peel - August 22, 2008

I love the lyrics to Hallelujah, but I haven’t found a performance of it that I like at all. Most of them are either too screechy/shouty (“HalleLOOOOOyahh!”) or too whispery.

I have a question for the guys. As you know, the boy and I have been together for over 2 years. Recently, his grandfather passed away. It wasn’t particularly unexpected, as he had been ill for some time, but he was the boy’s last surviving grandparent, and the boy’s grandmother (on the other side of the family) also passed away this year. The boy didn’t tell me that his grandfather had died until he’d known about it for something like a day and a half, and remarked in passing that the service was on Saturday without saying when & where or indicating in any way that he wants me to come. I’ve asked if he wants me there, but have received no reply at all.

Is there some macho man thing going on where the boy can’t admit that he wants the woman he loves to support him as he grieves, or does he actually not want me around? And if the latter, then what the hell??

36. Mrs. Peel - August 22, 2008

Argh! That was a close parenthesis and shouldn’t have been turned into a wink. That kind of thing is exactly why I’ve turned off graphical smilies on my blog.

37. Mrs. Peel - August 22, 2008

I should probably also note that I have a very serious thing about not “shoving myself in where I’m not wanted,” to the extent that I often won’t go somewhere unless I’m specifically invited, because otherwise I think that people are irritated that I’m there but are too polite to say so. (This rule gets overridden if the person who I suspect is irritated is someone I like to irritate.) So in this case, I’m afraid that the family wouldn’t want me at the funeral because I met his grandfather only once and my attendance would be an intrusion upon their private grief.

(I’ve faced a lot of rejection in my life, particularly early on before I stopped giving people a chance to reject me, and I don’t seem to have gotten over it yet.)

38. composmentis - August 22, 2008

Don’t think you can mention the 80’s without this lady.

Her vocal range is out of this world. That little bone in my ear grows longer when I hear her.

39. Lipstick - August 22, 2008

I feel a lot better now that you said you have only met the grandfather once.

My guess is that the boy may not want to burden you and/or doesn’t want to have to worry about you while the family tells hours of old stories about gramps.

I’d drop the subject and act like there’s nothing wrong or unusual.

40. composmentis - August 22, 2008

Peel, it’s hard to say what’s going on with him. How close was he to his grandfather? I can’t imagine a reason why he wouldn’t want you there with him. My initial thought is that he’s numb. That’s how I am when someone I love dies. I just don’t deal.

41. composmentis - August 22, 2008

Perhaps he knows he’s not going to handle it well and doesn’t want you to witness it.

42. PattyAnn - August 22, 2008

Did you attend the grandmother’s funeral? If you did, I’d guess he’s expecting/hoping you’ll attend the grandfather’s.
I can’t even imagine him not wanting you there. I think he just doesn’t want to burden you.

43. Lipstick - August 22, 2008

I can’t even imagine him not wanting you there.

I can totally imagine him wanting just to be with family, however much he loves you.

If Mr. L, much as I love and adore him, were to come to a family funeral I would be constantly distracted by explaining who everyone is and worried that he is only bravely doing this for me and is really wishing to be anywhere else.

44. Lipstick - August 22, 2008

He wouldn’t be wishing that, but I would worry anyway.

45. Dave in Texas - August 22, 2008

I’ve asked if he wants me there, but have received no reply at all.

Does that mean email? I forget, does he live close or away?

Next time you speak to him in person (or on the phone), ask him how he’s doing, and then ask when the funeral will be, and if he would like you to be with him.

Also a possible factor; where is the funeral going to be? Long way away?

46. PattyAnn - August 22, 2008

Lipstick, we are beautifully varied, aren’t we? I would be more comfortable having my significant other with me than I would be uncomfortable. I do understand your feels about it, though.

47. PattyAnn - August 22, 2008

feels=feelings (of course)

48. Retired Geezer - August 22, 2008

*Geezer comes late to the party and recommends yet another song that makes him weep.

49. Russ from Winterset - August 22, 2008

Michael @ #24:

Michael, we live in a world that has dance floors and those dance floors need to be occupied by men with rhythm. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Mr. Minority? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for The Cranberries and curse Dee Lite; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that my omission of the Cranberries in this thread, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties you want me on that dance floor, you need me on that dance floor. We use words like funk, rhythm, and “white man boogie”. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very funktastic dance music I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said “thank you,” and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a clarinet and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

50. composmentis - August 22, 2008

Yep, that’s a great one Geez. She sure can sing. Video chokes me up too. Daddies and their little girls n all.

51. composmentis - August 22, 2008

that my omission of the Cranberries

Linger. Great song. Delores O’Riordan has a sweet voice.

52. Retired Geezer - August 22, 2008

Christina Aguilera = the Anti-Brittney

53. composmentis - August 22, 2008
54. Sobek - August 22, 2008
55. Sobek - August 22, 2008

56. Jay in Ames - August 22, 2008

Russ, I just have to know.


57. sandy burger - August 22, 2008

And if the latter, then what the hell??

“What the hell” means you expect him to want you there.
To which I reply: What the hell?!

When my last grandparent passed away, I didn’t bring my girlfriend to the funeral. She didn’t know them, so I didn’t see any reason.

Also, he might be worried that he might cry, and he might be embarrassed for you to see that. It’s a guy thing, and you shouldn’t press the point.

If he wants you there, fine. If he doesn’t, be glad you were spared a tedious boring event, and be extra sweet to him afterwards. He’ll appreciate it.

If you turn this into some relationship issue, with hurt feelings over him not wanting you there or something, it’ll tell him that when he’s put upon, he can count on you… to be moody.

One more thing: Personally, I’d want to be cheered up with dead grandpa jokes, but it’s possible that he might lack a sense of humor about such things, so ease into them cautiously.

58. lauraw - August 22, 2008
59. Russ from Winterset - August 22, 2008

“Russ, I just have to know.



Jay, I was referring to the late, great dance floor at Top of the Town, but you should know that back in the day, I once got drunk enough to take a girl onto the so-called dance floor at Welch Avenue Station. I’ve only ever seen one person dancing on that floor in all my years of drinking there, so you just KNOW that I was drinkin’ like a Kennedy that night. Of course, that same night, we made our own dance floor right next to the pool table at Whiskey River, so we didn’t limit our drunkenness to Campustown only.

60. Mr Minority - August 22, 2008



Russ, I can relate with you, the only way you will get me on the dance floor is through the heavy use of alcohol. But I can guarantee you that the alcohol will NOT be in the form of a Strawberry Daiquiri! Jack & Coke or a Mojito.

61. compos mentis - August 22, 2008

Is it “I drink for affect” or “I drink for effect“? Either way, that’s what I do. Jack n Coke, Beam n Coke, but none of that froofroo crap.

Personally, I’d want to be cheered up with dead grandpa jokes a hummer . . . Fixed that for ya.

62. compos mentis - August 22, 2008

Nifty vid.

Cool. Thanks. Liked the song a lot.

63. Dave in Texas - August 22, 2008

In that context “effect” would be correct. Affect is an action toward another thing, effect is an action received.

64. xbradtc - August 22, 2008

When did DinT start channeling M’oon?

As in “Fire for effect!”.

65. Mr Minority - August 22, 2008

To put it in simpler terms:

Something has an affect on something else.

That effect can be seen.

66. Dave in Texas - August 22, 2008

brother axed a question, I answered.

channeling M’oon would not have required him to ax me.

67. Pupster - August 22, 2008

a href=”http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h14/texastech12301/racist.gif”>h/t Bart

68. Pupster - August 22, 2008
69. compos mentis - August 22, 2008

You CAN drink for affect. For instance, it might make someone in a Batman costume appear to be more attractive than they really are, or it might make bad poetry seem almost Dickson-esque.

70. compos mentis - August 22, 2008

Emily Dickinson. Time for some pudding. Yeah.

71. Jay in Ames - August 22, 2008

“the so-called dance floor at Welch Avenue Station”

That dance floor has been converted to seating a LOOOOONG time ago, and the Cornwalls that used to blare at you now reside in my basement man-cave. Friends who have helped me move over the years have named them the “penis envy speakers”. Take from that what you will.

Employee christmas parties were the only time that area was used in its stated purpose. Also moved tables out there for upside down margaritas. Good times, good times.

72. Russ from Winterset - August 22, 2008

Peel, let the boy know that you’re there for him. If he wants you to go to the funeral, you’ll go. On the flip side, if he’d rather grieve alone or with his close family, you understand and will let him get it done without being clingy. He’ll appreciate the honesty and understanding, and you’ll get brownie points for supporting his decision before you even know what it’s going to be.

I’ve seen “significant others” insist on coming to funerals not because they want to support their sweetheart, but because they don’t want the families to think that they’re the kind of person who won’t come to a funeral.

73. Mrs. Peel - August 22, 2008

That’s what I told him, Russ. I also offered to sit in his classes (he has class on the day of the service) and take notes for him. He didn’t respond to that, though.

sandy, we’ve been together two years, we’re supposedly in love, and we’ve talked about getting married. If it were some stiff-upper-lip man thing, I’d be fine with that. I’d much rather he just told me what he wants straight-up, which is what I would do (I don’t play stupid “guess-my-feelings” games. I either keep quiet entirely or tell you directly), but whatever. What I object to is if he actually doesn’t want my support. In that case, “what the hell” seems like an appropriate response to me. Thus far, my overtures have been rejected, and yeah, that hurts my feelings. I’m not going to say anything to him about it, but there it is.

74. Mrs. Peel - August 22, 2008

oh, and thanks, all.

75. Lipstick - August 22, 2008

All you can do now is lay low and be patient.

It sucks, but it’s the only way.

76. Russ from Winterset - August 22, 2008

Peel, it sounds like you’ve handled the situation about as well as anyone could. I think you might want to have a talk with him about what happened here, but wait for a week or two in case he’s feeling overwhelmed. Let him know that you want to be supportive, but you’re worried that he didn’t want to give you any feedback either way. If you’re willing to wait for him to bring it up, then that would be better, but you should definitely bring it up yourself if it starts effecting how you interact with him.

77. Lipstick - August 22, 2008

I’d vote for waiting for him to bring it up.

In my experience, in a few months or a year from now he will say something like: “You know, you were very cool and didn’t give me a guilt trip when I freaked and shut down about Granddad and all”.

“‘Shut down”. . .that seems to be what’s happening with him right now.

78. Mrs. Peel - August 22, 2008

He probably is “shutting down.” It wasn’t a surprise at all, but that doesn’t necessarily make it any easier, you know?

79. Lipstick - August 22, 2008

Yeah, I know and it sucks.

80. BrewFan - August 22, 2008

Lipstick, I forgot to mention, for some more good dining* you have to try Joes Stone Crab. As they say in Miama Beach, it’s to die for!

*Stone crabs are excellent buy I’m not sure if they’re in season right now. The other food is good as well, though.

81. Michael - August 22, 2008

Thus far, my overtures have been rejected, and yeah, that hurts my feelings.

It wasn’t a surprise at all, but that doesn’t necessarily make it any easier, you know?

Congrats to you, Peel, for owning and expressing your feelings, even if it’s just with us online morons. That shows unusual maturity for someone your age, in my opinion.

82. Pupster - August 22, 2008

83. Pupster - August 22, 2008

84. Pupster - August 22, 2008

85. Pupster - August 22, 2008

86. Pupster - August 22, 2008

87. Mrs Peel - August 22, 2008

Thanks, Michael. The pronoun in the latter comment was sadly antecedentless, though – I was actually referring to his grandfather’s death as not being a surprise. So that’s the boy’s feelings there, not mine.

88. mesablue - August 22, 2008

89. eddiebear - August 22, 2008

Mrs. P:

I am not much of an expert on anything, but all I can add is:

Do what YOU think is right and let the chips fall where they may. If after your offers of condolence and support are rebuffed, then truly assess how comfortable you are with the situation and act accordingly.

I know it’s vague, but ultimately, you will learn from this whole situation. And yeah, it stinks that life lessons usually involve disappointments and hurt.

90. eddiebear - August 22, 2008

I don’t know if this is a good or bad thing, but this is what was playing in my head while running tonight.

91. Wickedpinto - August 22, 2008

2 effing years? (I’m coming in late, is it too late?)

Yes he wants you there, he wants you to push, he wants you to be a part, unless he wants to dump you, and use this as an excuse (guys can be cold at the same time as emotional, don’t ask me, I’m just a guy, I didn’t make me.)

Maybe he was in the process of taking the big step, cuz I understand you are one of those who doesn’t . . .well, you know, and now he has to deal with this, when he was looking forward to great day (no, not the banging) and now, with the promise of joy, he now suffers agony.

Thats the worst kind.

Tell him that you want to go with him, but don’t push, just voice YOUR desire, and then see how he reacts, if it’s weak, and beaten, like a child forced to wear shoes, no matter how clear the puddle is on a rainy day, don’t worry, it’s only if he reacts without emotion.

If he says “no” in a deadpan unreadable way, he might be getting tired of you (sorry to add more grey to grey) but if he becomes fidgety, that means he does want you to come, but he’s affraid to ask, because he’s not ready for “the big step,” If he accepts outright, and has a pleading, or grateful tone of voice, you picked the right kid.

92. Wickedpinto - August 23, 2008

As many chicks as we have here, I figured one of them would have said something.

PERSONALY! I think I’m spot on.

93. Wickedpinto - August 23, 2008


Some of you HAVE! to be married, leaving your wives to dry the wet spot!!!

No love on friday?

(a quote from my courtmartial papers, a REPETATIVE quote, about something I said)


94. Mrs Peel - August 23, 2008

He got in touch with me late last night and gave me the details, so that’s good, I guess.

WP may have a point…

95. geoff - August 23, 2008

I think it’s common for guys to put off thinking about bad things as long as is possible. I’d guess that he’s just submerging the whole thing until he actually has to face it, which is why he’s not making plans and answering your questions. He’s just waiting until the last minute to deal with it.

Life is dragging him to this funeral, where he has to confront the fact that his grandfather has passed on. I personally like to mentally shelve that sort of thing, and let the gut realization trickle in gently and naturally over time.

More on supporting a guy like geoff during times of grief: I don’t know if this is generally true, but if he does break down during the ceremony, don’t do anything obvious to comfort him – it will embarrass and irritate him. Just grab a little finger or something. Bring a handkerchief or some kleenex, since he’ll forget, and stick it in his hand if he needs it. When you get back to the car, offer to drive, and don’t talk until he starts.

He may be inside his head for awhile, and you’ll just going to have to wait it out. He’ll thank you profusely later for doing the silent, subtle support thing.

96. pajama momma - August 23, 2008

Mrs. Peel, when my good friend Danny passed away in May, pjdaddy didn’t attend the funeral with me because he was unable to, but I’m glad now that he couldn’t attend.

I enjoyed getting to trade stories back and forth about “the good ole days” and I didn’t have to worry about whether pjdaddy was ok. Yes, he’s fine at entertaining himself, and even though we’ve been together almost 12 years, I was selfish in my desire to be alone with friends and family who were my life long before my hubby came into it.

More on supporting a guy like geoff during times of grief: I don’t know if this is generally true, but if he does break down during the ceremony, don’t do anything obvious to comfort him

I also don’t like to be smothered all over. During the memorial service when I broke down, my mom and ex-sister in law were rubbing me on the back and I was like, ACK!!! DO NOT WANT!!! My sister got stuck being rubbed on by Auntie Michele. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.

I also had a cousin rushing to get me tissue. It was sweet, however, I’d have prefered not to have that kind of attention.

The one who knew how to give me attention was Danny’s sister. She came up to me and said, “You’re crying because you didn’t get to ride in first class out here, aren’t you?”

The next day at the actual funeral my sister and I decided to sit with each other because we know each other’s boundaries and wouldn’t glom all over each other.

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