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Homeowner Stabbed and Shot With Own Gun During Robbery October 29, 2008

Posted by Michael in Crime.
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Further evidence that you should never threaten anyone with a gun if you are not ready to actually use deadly force.  Guns are designed to kill, not to intimidate.

A Watauga [Texas] homeowner was stabbed several times and shot once with his own gun during a robbery early this morning, police said.

How the heck does a robber with a knife decide to attack a man with a shotgun, and succeed?  Something went very wrong here.

The incident occurred in the 6000 block of Sundown Drive in Watauga about 10 miles northeast of Fort Worth.

According to Watauga police, a man heard someone trying to break into a trailer parked in his driveway around 3:30 a.m.

Armed with a shotgun, the man confronted the intruder who stabbed him several times. The gun went off during the scuffle, and the homeowner was shot in the arm.

A neighbor who came to the help the homeowner was also stabbed multiple times, police said.

There’s an old saying — don’t show up for a gunfight with a knife.  Even more important — don’t show up for a knife fight with a gun you’re not prepared to use.

Try 911.

via Dallas Morning News | Breaking News for Dallas-Fort Worth

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1. composmentis - October 29, 2008

Correct. Keep safe enough distance that if the perp makes a move toward you, there is time enough to react and blow his nards into oblivion.

Also, like you said, have the balls to blow off his.

2. Michael - October 29, 2008

Actually, the recommended tactic for stopping a determined (e.g., suicidal, stoned, desperate) attacker was developed long ago by the British Army and is known to this day as the Mozambique Drill.

3. eddiebear - October 29, 2008

Many people believe that just seeing or hearing a shotgun load is enough to scare away a troublemaker. Not true, especially with crackheads.

4. geoff - October 29, 2008

the Mozambique Drill.

Applying the Mozambique Drill with a shotgun doesn’t seem like it would leave much behind.

5. skinbad - October 29, 2008

Agreed. Possibly cathartic, but probably unnecessary.

6. Mare - October 29, 2008

I would like to buy a hand gun and become proficient using it. Is there any kind of reliable way to know if you could shoot someone when the circumstances require it? I KNOW if my children were involved I could blow someone’s head off, without hesitation. But I am wondering if one on one I would do it. Any thoughts?

7. Vmaximus - October 29, 2008

Mare,
If you question yourself you should not. One needs to make that decision before buying.

I have a friend in law enforcement that during training found that a person with a knife could cross a room and stab him before he could get his gun out of his holster.

8. Mare - October 29, 2008

Vmax, I think, based on everything I know about myself that I could. Since I have never “fired” on anyone and I would bet 99% of the readers here have not either, what are reliable characteristics (if any exist) of people that would?

I don’t think I am articulating this correctly.

9. Dave in Texas - October 29, 2008

mare, I can offer some tips in that regard, if you want em. you can email me at gooberintexas at gmail dot com.

The pertinent questions are,

1. Could I shoot?

2. Can I protect my loved ones?

There are ways. But you have to kinda dig into the idea of killing a predator. “Killing” is the word that stops most of us.

In my experience, moms can definitely get their back up when it’s time to protect their kids. More than themselves.

10. kevlarchick - October 29, 2008

I think I could shoot to kill. If you don’t kill them, they might come back another time with their own gun.

11. Pupster - October 29, 2008

Mare,
I’m not an expert. But in my opinion, anyone, through training and repetition, can become proficient and somewhat instinctive with a firearm. Take lessons, get your concealed carry license, and practice. A lot.

If you were ever in a life or death situation, you want your training to kick in, not your logic. No one knows how they will react in every situation, but as the saying goes, “Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.”

12. Russ from Winterset - October 29, 2008

Especially at IB gatherings. All those people are planning on killing you, so you need to do it yourself strictly out of self defense.

13. Michael - October 29, 2008

Since I have never “fired” on anyone and I would bet 99% of the readers here have not either, what are reliable characteristics (if any exist) of people that would?

Well, people who have sick fantasies about torturing cats for fun can probably be counted on to shoot in self defense.

I’m pretty sure I could pull the trigger.

14. Pupster - October 29, 2008

*plan update*

15. Michael - October 29, 2008

Other reliable shooters are those narcissistic punks with an exaggerated sense of their own importance and place in the world. You know, like all those pathetic creeps you’ve met who think they’re just as good as Lutherans.

16. Mare - October 29, 2008

If I get a gun I have made the promise to myself to become proficient and practice a lot. As luck would have it we have a shooting range only 2 miles from our home.

Besides the obvious self protection aspect, I also would appreciate the sport challenge of being a “good shot.”

And Kevlarchick, I agree. I don’t want to shoot someone only to have them rise up and smash my face in with their crack addled strength.

17. Mare - October 29, 2008

I love this site.

Guns, death, torture and humor…all in the same sentence.

18. "Dirty Martin" Luther - October 29, 2008

In all the excitement of the moment, I’ve forgotten whether or not I used all 6 nails or just 5 when I posted that rant on the church door. Now, being that this is Lutheran doctrine, the most powerful religious tracts in the history of mankind, and will blow your mind CLEAN out, you’ve got to ask yourself a question: Do you feel lucky?

Well, do ya’…….METHODIST?

19. Michael - October 29, 2008

Well, then there are the “Carrie” type of stone cold killers; the malformed personalities that are still nursing festering grievances from their adolescent years, and have the innate ability to snuff out a human life, laugh at the twitching corpse, and calmly light a cigarette.

20. Russ from Winterset - October 29, 2008

Mare, Dave & pupster know what they’re talking about. Training’s the key, and you need to get yourself to the point where instincts take over and you can fire without having to make the choice.

Me? I use the example of my high school football instruction: When you tackle a man, you’re not tacking HIM, you’re trying to tackle another unseen guy hiding RIGHT BEHIND the guy with the ball. If you can get yourself to think of the “target” as something between you and survival, it makes it easier to hit ’em hard.

21. xbradtc - October 29, 2008

As a serious reply to the question, “Could I shoot someone?”, the answer is another question – “Did you train?”

In all likelihood, yes you could shoot someone. Especially if you trained. Proficiency with the weapon is a good start. But it is only a start. Anyone who goes armed should spend as much or more time on the “rules of engagement” aspect of it. Learn the law in your municipality and state. When is the use of force justified (mind you, the real rule is ‘I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6’) and where and when can you and can you not carry a weapon. Once you know those rules, you can mentally construct a scenario. Use that when training to learn “shoot/don’t shoot.”

Or just practice by stalking hobos. Worked for me.

22. daveintexas - October 29, 2008

>> the malformed personalities

I wouldn’t light up. I’d puke.

Then I’d call the cops. And then I would lawyer up.

23. Michael - October 29, 2008

If you can get yourself to think of the “target” as something between you and survival, it makes it easier to hit ‘em hard.

Imagine your target is one of those wankers from The Hostages who are accusing you of being gay. Then empty the magazine while screaming obscenities.

24. Mare - October 29, 2008

russ, dave, pupster & xbradtc,

Good advice.

When I was young my dad told me if I was attacked near the house or on our property and I happened to kill them “be sure to drag them into the house.”

25. kevlarchick - October 29, 2008

I am nowhere near the “instinct” stage yet. I still get giddy when driving to the shooting range, not to mention holding and shooting the gun again. And I’ve not been to the range alone yet.

And I don’t have Michael on speed dial yet.

26. Mare - October 29, 2008

Michael, LOL

27. daveintexas - October 29, 2008

Michael would put on the cape and punch the living shit outta them.

28. kevlarchick - October 29, 2008

Michael on speed dial cause he’s a bitch of a lawyer, that’s why.

29. Cathy - October 29, 2008

I’ve got the weapon. I can probably cultivate my skills and end up an okay marks-person. But like Mare, I want to practice and feel comfy with it so that if I ever need to use deadly force that I will do it successfully and responsibly.

I despise bullies and don’t think I’d hesitate using deadly force if ever I end up needing to defend myself or a loved one. The fighter comes out. Fast.

So I’m looking forward to conceal and carry classes.
Soon, very soon. I hope.

30. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

I don’t own a gun, not cuz I’m currently poor, there was a time when I wasn’t actually quite prosperous in terms of this region, but I never bought a gun.

Not cuz I didn’t know how to use it or because I was worried about it being missued.

I was worried that I would use it, properly and I would kill a fucker.

I own a gun? Fucker gety a a shooty, and probably diey.

31. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

as for the headline.”Homeowner Stabbed and Shot With Own Gun During Robbery ”

first thought that passed my mind.

“how do you stab someone with a gun?”

32. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

not wasn’t, WAS

33. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

anyone read my story about chasing a burgler down the streat with my brothers Honor Guard sword?

If I had caught up to that fucker, and been within 2 feet of him, he would have had a foot of steel in his fucking body.

34. doubleplusundead - October 29, 2008

We’re holding a chat for Obama’s infomercial, feel free to join.

35. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

whore.

36. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

Since I have never “fired” on anyone and I would bet 99% of the readers here have not either

Patty doesn’t even need a gun to kill a man.

37. Vmaximus - October 29, 2008

The mental part of it is important too. Unfortunately one of the best ways of preparing yourself for it is to visualize it. Walk through it in your mind. What if I hear someone at the door what will I do? If you have a good plan and have thought through the situation, knowing where you want to be and how you will respond.
Then there is training I have been thinking about going to gunsite or someplace like that, but I have not gone beyond that.

38. Retired Geezer - October 29, 2008

Then there is training I have been thinking about going to gunsite or someplace like that,

Go to FrontSight near Vegas. Best Gun Training Place, Evah!
I told all you morons how you could get a FREE 3 day course, just by putting some links on your blog.
I don’t think anybody did it except for me and Mrs. Geezer.

I took a FREE submachine gun class there, shot a zillion rounds through an Uzi.
Sweet!

39. Michael - October 29, 2008

If you have a good plan and have thought through the situation, knowing where you want to be and how you will respond.

I did that with my house in Ohio, just goofing around and imagining what I would do. There were actually two relatively secure places (i.e., you could not be seen from outside if you pulled some curtains), and from those two spots you could reasonably cover all four exterior doors from a protected position and have easy retreat to the second floor. Those spots were a few square feet in the dining room, and a small stretch of hall between the foyer and the kitchen. The hall position was better (curtains not an issue and better lines of sight), and that’s exactly where I would have gone in the event of a home intrusion. The dining room was a fallback position.

I should figure something out for this house.

40. BrewFan - October 29, 2008

I should figure something out for this house.

Get Cathy and go into the shower and … and … what were we talking about?

41. Russ from Winterset - October 29, 2008

“I should figure something out for this house.”

Robotic sentries with 20mm Vulcan gatling guns. Sort of like the deleted scene from “Aliens”. Program them with your biometric information, and they will ignore you and focus on any unathorized personnel in the perimeter.

42. Cathy - October 29, 2008

I should figure something out for this house.

*sigh*

my big strong Michael is so romantic

protecting his turf

…and me.

43. Russ from Winterset - October 29, 2008

Seriously though, I think your idea for the hallway/dining room would be good IF you were trying to cover all the entrances and prevent anyone from getting in, but you’ve gotta consider that a home invasion will probably be well in progress before you ever realize that it’s going on. I think the best thing you could do is establish a room where you’ve got access to both a landline & cell phone, you’ve got a reasonably secure door & definitely “one way in, one way out”. That way, nobody’s going to be able to outflank you. They’ve got to come through a door and look down the barrel of your Kimber if they’re gonna come for you. I don’t know if you’ve noticed this yet, but the barrel on a .45 looks as big as a freaking storm sewer outlet when you’re looking at it from the working end.

Oh yeah, and your “safe room” should definitely have a dorm fridge stocked with beer. Just in case you get thirsty blowing away bad guys, you can always grab an ice cold Shiner to wet your whistle.

44. Michael - October 29, 2008

Just in case you get thirsty blowing away bad guys, you can always grab an ice cold Shiner to wet your whistle.

That’s a great idea. I wouldn’t want to get dehydrated just because I had to waste a few Calvinists perpetrators.

45. Michael - October 29, 2008

Plus, once I’m bunkered up and the bad guys see all the gay decor, they’ll probably realize they’re in the wrong place and get the hell out.

46. Dave in Texas - October 29, 2008

>> I should figure something out for this house

beer/wine fridge.

take a few grenades. save one for yourself, like that scene in Alien. Be sure to tell Cathy to tell you “you were always an asshole”.

47. lauraw - October 29, 2008

Just found out recently that one of my close associates is a dude who can certify me for carry in this here restrictive blue state.

I’ve been through the course before, but never got the paperwork done. It’s high time.

Funny how the gun stores in blue states get record sales when the election seems like it’s going to swing Dem, isn’t it?

Hmmm.

48. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

my big strong Michael is so romantic

protecting his turf

…and me.

I would protect you too tachyon, and you aren’t even mine.

After all, Mike needs some cover, while he changes into his uniform before he can protect his turf.

Then again, if I was alone in my apartment with a puppy, I would shoot that fucker most ric and tick.

49. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

Don’t fuck with the things I love.

If people acted that way more often there would be fewer burglars.

50. Vmaximus - October 29, 2008

I missed that Geezer. I will look in to it. I have been partial to Massab, and Cooper but frontsight is good.
Do you have a link for the free stuff Geez?

51. Dave in Texas - October 29, 2008

Last time I checked, CT was a fairly flexible state with regard to permits. I believe you are required to get a local permit first (complete a handgun safety course and file an application with local PD, $35 bucks). Then you can apply for a state permit. No fee shown.

Surprisingly easier than Texas.

http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal/connecticut-ccw-state-laws.php

52. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

DiT, don’t bother telling that to russ, my understanding, is he doesn’t give a damn about gun laws, be they carry or transport.

(thats actually pretty fucking funny Russ)

53. Vmaximus - October 29, 2008

Florida Is great. Take a class submit fingerprints and wait 2 – 3 months. Done.It is $135 for 3 years. That is much more than $35.

54. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

“They are in my trunk.”
“YOU DON”T HAVE A TRUNK!”
“close enough.” or something like that.

CRACKED ME UP!!!

Janis (is it “janis” or “Janice?”) is a funny flogging broad!

Us IB’ers were funny in the way you would figure, but it was the wimmins who snuck in with blindsider!

55. Vmaximus - October 29, 2008

Another thing about Florida that is great is you can carry a weapon “securely encased” in your vehicle. Securely encased is defined as in a glove compartment or center counsel, or a snapped holster! (section 790)

But If NoBama wins I might consider moving to Texas.

56. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

but, uh uh uh, you see, I, well, it’s like, I thought OBAMA was a fan of the second ammendment?

57. Vmaximus - October 29, 2008

Russ is right,
If you are not prepared, (your weapon is locked away in a place you cannot get to quickly) You have to consider that. So unless you carry one on your person at all time, or keep it within arms reach. You have some planning to do.
It is balance, what do you feel your threat level is vs what are you comfortable with? Do you want to have a weapon within arms reach at all times? or do you have Kids and is that impractical?

58. Vmaximus - October 29, 2008

Wicked,
The NRA has a devastating add out about Nobama and guns

59. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

It was a joke about interstate laws max.

60. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

and PJ TV links are about as reliable as me, the day after a beer tasting.

61. Mare - October 29, 2008

Practice and Planning. And repetition. Got it. Also, get certified. Check my local laws. Get permits. Also, refrigerator with beer.

Thanks everyone.

Guess what I’m asking for from Santa this Christmas.

62. Dave in Texas - October 29, 2008

I don’t think there’s a whole lot I would try to tell Russ about guns WP. I was offerin some info to lauraw.

63. geoff - October 29, 2008

Guess what I’m asking for from Santa this Christmas.

The Acme Keg-Fridge-Rifle-Safe?

64. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

Russ SAID he was breaking laws, or maybe it was his wife, I think thats why she wanted us to empty the can.

65. Sobek - October 29, 2008

I just ran ten miles, and boy are my legs tired.

Mare, remember that anything worth shooting once is worth shooting twice.

66. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

When the russians invade the US? I’m driving to russes place.

67. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

I’m craving mashed taters.

68. Sobek - October 29, 2008

One night I’m home with the Missus, the kids are in bed asleep, and it’s pretty late. And I hear something downstairs. I stop what I’m doing and listen very intently, and there it is again.

So I tell Mrs. Sobek, and I give her a baseball bat and tell her to go into the kids’ bedroom. I grab the gun and very slowly, very stealthily, make my way towards the stairs. That’s when realized, for the first time ever, that my house absolutely sucks for home defense. The way the stairs are, I am backlit against a window, and if someone is downstairs, they are totally in the dark. Absolutely perfect position for an ambush, if you’re down there waiting for me.

Eventually I get downstairs and figure out no one was there. I don’t know what the sound was, but all the doors and windows were locked, so no one had been there. Poor Mrs. Sobek was totally freaked out by the whole thing. I was freaked out, too, but also determined to come up with a better plan in case of home invasion.

69. Sobek - October 29, 2008

Okay, another story.

Some Jehovah’s Witnesses (hereinafter “JWs”) knock on my mom’s door. She invites them in to be polite, and they all start discussing religion. I wasn’t there, so I have no idea how they got on the subject, but they tell her that violence is absolutely forbidden, even for self-defense. They ask her what she thinks of that.

She says “if someone comes in my house and threatens me or my kids, I will kill them without even hesitating.”

The JWs sit there for a moment in stunned silence, then politely excuse themselves and leave.

My mom rules.

70. Mare - October 29, 2008

Sobek, what did you come up with. Good story although the ending would have been better with a shootout or baseball bat to the kneecaps or scattered teeth kind of thing.

Seriously, glad everyone was safe and you got a freebie dry run.

71. Sobek - October 29, 2008

Sorry Mare, that’s classified. But if you break into my house I’d be happy to give you a demonstration.

So what’s your situation, anyway?

72. Mare - October 29, 2008

LOL

73. Mare - October 29, 2008

Yes, your mom does rule.

74. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

Mrs sobek with a bat? both sad and cute.

75. Wickedpinto - October 29, 2008

Whats your situation cat’s.

Like lauraW’s thing. Whats your situation, whats your situation like the WIND!

76. Michael - October 30, 2008

Sobek, what’s your Mom’s situation?

77. eddiebear - October 30, 2008

My wife and I have had several emotional discussions over my recent purchases, buying into her family’s scare tactics that my 3 1/2 year old daughter will shoot herself with an unloaded firearm. Of course, they also hold the belief that a baseball bat is just as good as a gun in fighting off intruders.

Hell, her dad came out when he heard about my purchases and summarily declared we didn’t need anything, since our basement windows were blocked windows, our front windows all had hedges in front of them, and since we are on top of a hill with a lot of shrubs and shit on our hill facing a jogging path, we were secluded and safe.

Whatever.

While only a .22, my Ruger is in my bedroom in one of my drawers (my wife wonders why more and more of my undershirts are winding up in the downstairs closet), and my M-N rifle is in the basement, in case I am downstairs when a bad guy gets in my house.

But, my basement has several advantages and angles for defense, and our bedroom has nice angles to prepare for a bad guy coming into our room. as for my daughter’s room, the windows are high enough that a bad guy would have trouble getting in unnoticed.

My biggest worry is when my wife leaves for work really early in the morning. I have always told her if she feels unsafe walking to the car, or hears or sees something unsettling, come back in and get me. I have also urged her to become acquainted with the firearms, should I be out of the house, and she is the only one there. But so far, she has been unresponsive.

78. geoff - October 30, 2008

I believe in home defense, but being accident-prone, I feel like I might end up as a statistic for the other side. So I’ll have to rely on our lab to stall them by making the baddies pet her. Y’know, though, I don’t even have a bat in the house. Surely I can operate one of those without too much collateral damage.

I’ll have to rectify that the next time I’m home.

79. eddiebear - October 30, 2008

Click to access MOSL.pdf


Man, am I glad I live in MO.

I just wonder what Jay Nixon will do if he wins the Gov Race.

80. eddiebear - October 30, 2008

What was truly sad/depressing today was when I went to the gun shop near my office to buy some ammo, the display cases were virtually empty, save a few 30-30 rifles, a couple of high-end shotguns, and a couple of .22s. And the ammo was almost all gone. The owner straight up told me that I better buy what I could now because he isn’t going to order anything new anytime soon, since he is unsure of what will be legal to buy in a couple of months. And he may just turn his store into an FFL place that will charge $25 or $30 to hold a firearm for a person, as long as they pick it up.

Is he overreacting? Maybe. But the fear in some corners is palpable.

81. PattyAnn - October 30, 2008

“she has been unresponsive”

Eddie, you need to do whatever it takes to get her to take a firearms class. If she completes it, the fear will be replaced with a healthy respect for the guns and a better sense of security for your daughter.

82. PattyAnn - October 30, 2008

“Patty doesn’t even need a gun to kill a man.”

WP, if i could teach this skill, we would have world peace and I’d be a millionaire. And very lonely.

83. eddiebear - October 30, 2008

What is funny is that both of my sisters have been to the range with my dad, and they love it.

A lot of this, I’m sure, goes back to the pacifist/draft dodging/condescension streak in my inlaws.

84. Russ from Winterset - October 30, 2008

“When the russians invade the US? I’m driving to russes place”

Two words, WP:

1. Call
2. Ahead

On second thought, don’t bother. I can’t imagine mistaking you for a Speznatz trooper. Now when the dead rise and walk the earth, you’d damn well better make yourself a big ol’ sign saying “I’m Wickedpinto and I ain’t dead yet” to keep me from wasting you like one of those other braineaters.

As far as the “trunk vs. no trunk” issue goes, it’s always been my impression that transporting firearms through other states is OK so long as it’s not a gun that’s otherwise banned in that state (don’t try to take an AR15 through New Jersey), it’s unloaded, and it’s in a position where it’s not readily accessible to the driver or passengers. In our Subaru Forester, that means that the weaponry was all piled at the back of the cargo compartment. Even though it’s not a “trunk” per se, it’s still out of our reach. Plus, it’s not readily visible to anyone walking up to the vehicle. That always helps.

85. Russ from Winterset - October 30, 2008

“A lot of this, I’m sure, goes back to the pacifist/draft dodging/condescension streak in my inlaws.”

Eddie, I’m no sociologist, but I’m pretty sure that pacifists are just people who aren’t willing to protect themselves and want someone else to do the dirty work for them. When was the last time you heard of a pacifist calling 911 and saying “Oh yeah, and when the cops come to save us, could you have them lock their firearms in the trunk of their patrol car? We’re pacifists, you see, and weapons offend us.”

86. Cathy - October 30, 2008

Got ‘Gladiator’ on DVD at Half-Price Books
& watched it last night instead of blogging.
Missed the fun here. You guys crack me up. Love ya.

*note to self*stock up on ammo*dorm fridge*and Shiner*

87. Cathy - October 30, 2008

When the Russians invade the US? I’m driving to Russ’ place

I was thinking the same thing, WickedPinto. Bought ‘Red Dawn’ on DVD too. Good flick if you haven’t seen it.

Michael & I got the notion to sell all our VHS (over 300 of ’em) and are replacing a few we really want to have on DVD…. and I’m not even going to think about Blue Ray right now…

So where ARE we all meeting if/when all hell breaks loose?

*only half kidding*

88. eddiebear - October 30, 2008

^Dave’s pool?

89. Cathy - October 30, 2008

I’m pretty sure that pacifists are just people who aren’t willing to protect themselves and want someone else to do the dirty work for them.

Different issue, but I’m thinking about Billy Ayers intimidated by the reporter last week who came onto “his property” and he called the police to get protection.

That was ironic. What a slime ball.

90. eddiebear - October 30, 2008

Russ:

You’re probably right. I honestly don’t know why they believe what they do.

But on the positive side, my NRA membership came in the mail yesterday.

91. Cathy - October 30, 2008

Dave’s pool?

Is Dave cool with Dave’s pool?

92. kevlarchick - October 30, 2008

Yes, we should all agree to convene at Russ’ compound if or when the time comes. I’d like to hold baby Moses before he is big enough to outrun me.

Russ, please tell us the password and we’ll keep it in our little circle.

Ms Patty, don’t you carry a .357?

93. Cathy - October 30, 2008

Eddie, I’m with PattyAnn. Encourage your wife to learn how to handle your weaponry and take the class. We wimmins have some deep stuff in us about protecting the youngin’s. Help her find that and bring it out. It will help keep your family safe even if she never has to pull a trigger to protect.

94. eddiebear - October 30, 2008

91: it’s either that or the strip clubs in Sauget, IL

95. Cathy - October 30, 2008

agree to convene at Russ’ compound

Kevlar, if you do the baby-holdin’, sweetie, I’ll cook. Janis has access to the meat. We’ll bring Dave & Mrs., our Kimbers, Shiners, and Casey-the-three-legged-crimefighter, and their Moses. What a hoot.

Red Dawn.

96. Michael - October 30, 2008

Eddie’s on to something there.

97. Michael - October 30, 2008

I suggest we send a scouting party to reconnoiter the feasibility of making our last stand in Sauget. Volunteers, please fall in behind me.

98. Sobek - October 30, 2008

Michael, heh.

Mare, you may have answered this on another thread somewhere, but are you a long-time reader who recently de-lurked, or did you just recently find the place, or what?

99. kevlarchick - October 30, 2008

Clandestine black ops with Michael. Terrifying.

100. composmentis - October 30, 2008

Volunteers, please fall in behind me.

You’re just asking to get fragged.

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102. PattyAnn - October 30, 2008

KC, yes. And I’m extremely comfortable with it.

Cathy, the DiT family and mine should meet on I-35 (you coming, Mrs. Peel?) then meet with you and Michael and caravan to Russ & Janis. We can bring homemade plum jam and shelled pecans.

“You’re just asking to get fragged.”
That comment, coming from you, is exponentially scarier. Compos, check out hostages soon–Paul has read your crap-tacular story and says he has one that’s better. The gauntlet will be thrown down, so to speak.

103. eddiebear - October 30, 2008

102: and I will not touch said toxic gauntlet

104. Dave in Texas - October 30, 2008

>> Dave’s pool?

Oh goodness, the water’s way too cold.

Girls first.

105. composmentis - October 30, 2008

For some reason, I’ve never been invited to swim in Dave’s pool.

106. Cathy - October 30, 2008

For some reason, I’ve never been invited to swim in Dave’s pool.

Change of plans, Compos. It’s Russ’ place or Sauget, IL now.

I vote for Russ’. Not sure I have the proper attire for the Sauget deal.

Copy PattyAnn on the Texas-Convoy up I-35.

107. composmentis - October 30, 2008

Kind of reminds me of Stephen King’s The Stand. Rosetta is The Walkin’ Dude and Teh Hotsausages will all meet in Vegas.

108. Rosetta the Racist - October 31, 2008

Rosetta is The Walkin’ Dude and Teh Hotsausages will all meet in Vegas.

If you knew how apropos that is, it would frighten you.

Sleep with one eye open, compos.

*lurks outside compos’ window*

109. eddiebear - October 31, 2008

^Rosie, keep a mask on if you are by Compos’ window.

110. Dave in Texas - October 31, 2008

gas mask

111. Vmaximus - November 1, 2008

Are you gonna accept well armed refugees from Florida, or should I just find a island and try to get PJmomma, Purple A and Black Repub to hold out there?

112. Russ from Winterset - November 1, 2008

PJM? Well, you won’t have to worry about zombie turtles getting at you if you’re with her.

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