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The View From My (Truck) Window July 28, 2009

Posted by daveintexas in Gardening, Man Laws, Philosophy, Politics, Technology.
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Not the best iPhone pic but this caught my attention on the way in this morning.

 

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103 yesterday.  I think I found out what’s causing it.

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1. Sox - July 28, 2009

103 yesterday. I think I found out what’s causing it.

Quick! Get it invited to Washington for a couple of beers. That will fix everything…..

2. geoff - July 28, 2009

Denialist.

3. mishu - July 28, 2009

How are the radiation treatments going?

4. geoff - July 28, 2009

…and what is in our atmosphere or coming out of the ground to make big bright yellow spots in the sky?

5. daveintexas - July 28, 2009

Oxides man. That shit is everywhere.

We gotta wake up people. There are rainbows now that never existed before.

6. Michael - July 28, 2009

I think the oxides come from laundry detergent. I’m not going to wash my clothes any more.

And tooth paste. That’s another problem.

7. Dave in Texas - July 28, 2009

That’s odd. On my iPhone the pic is cantered 90 degress, like the original

8. geoff - July 28, 2009

On my iPhone the pic is cantered 90 degress, like the original

Great. Now man’s obsession with environment-killing technology is causing the earth to tilt.

9. daveintexas - July 28, 2009

I meant the one I put in the post, that I took with my iPhone. When I look at the post with my phone, it’s tilty.

I blame AT&T.

10. lauraw - July 28, 2009

What is in our oxygen supply?

11. geoff - July 28, 2009

What is in our oxygen supply?

I heard that all the chemicals man is spewing into the environment are now causing pairs of oxygen atoms to stick together!!

12. Pie in - July 28, 2009

I dunno who is dumber, the chick with the sprinkler rainbow or http://isthisblogon.blogspot.com/2009/07/about-fruit-trees-and-vegetable-trees.html“>this rocket scientist.

13. Pie in - July 28, 2009

crap. html fail. I suppose I need to add myself to that list.

14. lauraw - July 28, 2009

I grew a tub of Vidalia onions out from seed in a half-barrel once, when I lived in Hartford and didn’t have so much space to garden.

One of my tenants used to be very curious about my various vegetable plantings and she would come over to see what I was doing all the time.

End of the season, I’m getting ready to pull the onions and she asked me what I was doing. I told her I was harvesting onions, and pulled a couple. She just looked shocked. I mean, like, SHAKEN. Then she started laughing.

“You told me those were onions a long time ago and I was waiting for them to start making onions on the tops and they never did…”

The long, floppy, grass-like stems? She expected big spanish onions to be produced on the TIPS of those.
What was really retarded is that if she had opened her eyes she would have seen the onions. The bulbs’ shoulders were halfway out of the ground.

City people.

15. geoff - July 28, 2009

The long, floppy, grass-like stems? She expected big spanish onions to be produced on the TIPS of those.

Well, duh. And they would have been if industrial effluents hadn’t increased gravity. Now we have to eat vegetables that have grown in the dirt. And who knows what’s in that stuff?

16. daveintexas - July 28, 2009

What, you mean onions are some kinda of dirty root grown in the ground or something?

HAHAHAHAHAHA. You almost had me on that one.

Almost!

17. Michael - July 28, 2009

And who knows what’s in that stuff?

Oxides, man, oxides. They are everywhere.

18. kevlarchick - July 28, 2009

Just give her some chives and tell her to go away.

19. Cathy - July 28, 2009

I’m not going to wash my clothes any more.

*huh?*

20. geoff - July 28, 2009

*huh?*

Heh.

21. DBoots, Environmental Oversight Czar - July 28, 2009

WE AS A NATION NEED TO ASK OURSELF’S

WHAT IS IN THESE CLOUDS THAT IS POLLUTING OUR LIGHT SUPPLY?

22. reason - July 28, 2009

I almost don’t even want to tell this story, because I actually do respect my sister-in-law, and the notion of everyone getting a little yuk at her expense saddens me…but I will anyway.

The other evening we were all out as a group for dinner (wife ‘n kids, sister-in-law and her husband). They have a small backyard garden, and have been sharing with the rest of the family their bumper-crop of tomatoes (which are fantastic). We started, somehow, on the debate on fruit / vegetable classification of tomatoes, and me being the Mr. Fancypants Science Genius that I am, quickly tried to put the conversation to bed by providing the basic truth that, technically, if the food in question is used to convey seeds to the ground, rot, and provide a fertile environ for the seed to germinate, then it is a fruit. Tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash…fruits. My sister in law, compelled by her cosmopolitan to try and stump the chump, asked what the technical definition of a veggie would be (answer that one, Mr. Fancypants!). I told her that anything that’s part of the plant structure is a veggie (roots, stems, stalks, leaves…).

This was balked at for being far too simplistic. I defaulted to my usual end-game challenge to “look it up on the Internet.” My wife knows this challenge well. She’s learned the hard way that I am never bluffing if I tell someone to go look it up, as I am the generation that grew up with the nerdy kid in glasses on the Encyclopedia Brittanica commercials and the naggy downstairs-mother with her “Look it up, dear!”

So alas, I have in the family people who sat there for the rest of dinner, analyzing their food, scouring for something to challenge my plant-structure = vegetable rule. I think my brother in law was about to bring legumes into the fray at one point, but stopped himself for some reason. If he had, I was already ready to go with drupes…

23. Michael - July 28, 2009

Hey, I’ll bet I’m not the only one who wants to beat up Reason and steal his lunch money right now.

24. lauraw - July 28, 2009

I argued with some twit about the botanical definition of fruits and vegetable matter once. That whole tomato thing / how we commonly refer to them as veggies again, yep.

She couldn’t grab onto the idea that the scientific definition was the more correct one because it was, you know, science.

Ended up having to strangle her with my purse strap.

No, really, I just gave up, ordered another beer, and shorted her on the tip.

25. mesablue - July 28, 2009

No reason to doubt that.

26. geoff - July 28, 2009

I don’t get any of this – plants? seeds? I thought vegetables were those crunchy things inside a Fritos bag.

27. Dave in Texas - July 28, 2009

They don’t grow in the dirt, do they now?

See? SEE?

28. lauraw - July 28, 2009

Ha ha ha haaa

Mesa thinks all women my age don’t tip.

29. Dave in Texas - July 28, 2009

You mean women younger than him?

30. lauraw - July 28, 2009

Women who are thirty-flavin.

31. reason - July 28, 2009

Veggies are things that have vegetable names, geoff.

You know, Funyons and CornNuts.

Fritos are…uh…used in pie…so they’re maybe a fruit.

32. geoff - July 28, 2009

Fritos are…uh…used in pie…so they’re maybe a fruit.

Plus they almost sound like “fruitos,” so I guess it’s obvious in retrospect. Silly me – I had thought that all fruits were found in cereal boxes. Now I know better.

Like laura says, you’ve got to trust the science.

33. Dave in Texas - July 28, 2009

somebody mention pie?

34. reason - July 28, 2009

I packed my lunch today, Michael. And tomorrow I’m already booked up with Laura punching me in the kidneys until I cry, and then the subsequent dialysis treatment.

How’s your Thursday?

35. mesablue - July 28, 2009

women my age

Leave my grammy out of this.

36. mesablue - July 28, 2009

Dave, did you see the National Pie Week video?

Best. Video. Ever.

37. daveintexas - July 28, 2009

uuuhhhhhhhhnnnngh

38. wiserbud - July 28, 2009

My view from my office:

http://tinyurl.com/ml9ogp

39. lauraw - July 28, 2009

Leave my grammy out of this.

Oh hah! Good one! Ya really got me!

*summons the flying monkeys*

40. Dave in Texas - July 28, 2009

Oh. Guess I shoulda actually watched it. I figured it was just pies and stuff.

Hoooboy, my bad.

41. Garth - July 28, 2009

Schwing! I love it when she “summons the flying monkeys.”

42. sandy burger - July 28, 2009

City people.

For a long time, I thought pineapples grew in pineapple trees, which I thought were like palm trees. I have no idea where I got this idea.

43. lauraw - July 28, 2009

The leaves look palm-like, I guess. And they grow a lot of them in pineapple.

Bromeliads! Freaky things.

44. Dave in Texas - July 28, 2009

Well I can see why they invented the word “pineapple” now.

45. Vmaximus - July 28, 2009

I planted a little pineapple this spring. All my friends that grow them say 5 years and I will have a pineapple.

I am thinking that I can buy them for $3.50 in the grocery store, and I do not have to wait 5 years.

Remind me in 4 years and 8 months I will tell you if it is any good.

46. Sobek - July 28, 2009

“For a long time, I thought pineapples grew in pineapple trees, which I thought were like palm trees.”

I thought that, too, until mere moments ago.

47. Sobek - July 28, 2009

I was punched in the jaw a couple of times today. I forgot to duck.

48. Michael - July 28, 2009

I remember reading somewhere about the miserable lot of workers on the pineapple plantations in Hawaii. I guess working in those fields was not a fun job, given that the plant is protected by many spines.

49. lauraw - July 28, 2009

ooopsie

50. lauraw - July 28, 2009

Bromeliads are very interesting plants.

Pineapples are related to Spamish Moss, that epiphyte which drapes tree branches in humid southern climes. As you all know, it smells strongly of pork and nitrates and is used in the production of a popular canned meat product that tastes similar to ham.

My girlfriend (who knows my stupid botanical interests all too well) brought me a hunk of Spamish Moss once from when she was on vacation. I kept it alive all Winter.

I draped it over a hanging water bowl in my kitchen window above the sink. I misted it with water and feed, and it bloomed these teensy little blooms at the ends. The tiny green blossoms were delicious and tasted like a salty luncheon meat. I fried them and ate them in sandwiches with buttered toasted onions.

In the Summer I let the Spamish Moss live in my crabapple tree, where it did great at first, then died miserably.

On another totally unrelated subject; sometimes typos should be exploited instead of corrected, YMMV

51. Dave in Texas - July 28, 2009

I grew some Spamish moss in a giant petri dish in my backyard, and fried up the Spamish with some peppers an omioms. Then I used it to fix a leaky valve stem and hung some on the door to ward off vampires.

52. Cathy - July 28, 2009

Pretty pic, Dave. Life can’t get much better’n that.

53. Cathy - July 28, 2009

*Waves “howdy” to Laura*

54. mesablue - July 28, 2009

On another totally unrelated subject; sometimes typos should be exploited instead of corrected

Ever visit The Hostages?

55. Dave in Texas - July 28, 2009

That’s no way to treat a co-mispeller.

56. sandy burger - July 29, 2009

I was punched in the jaw a couple of times today

That is terrible, Sobek.

You know, in my entire life, I have never been punched in the face. (Well, not in an actual fight, I mean.) Surprisingly, I’m not actually quite as tough as my internet persona might have led you all to believe.

57. Michael - July 29, 2009

Surprisingly, I’m not actually quite as tough as my internet persona might have led you all to believe.

That really cracked me up, Sandy.

I’m not scared of you any more.

58. Snyder - July 29, 2009

I was punched in the jaw a couple of times today.

It doesn’t hurt for very long.

59. harrison - July 29, 2009

Who is Snyder?

60. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

>> You know, in my entire life, I have never been punched in the face.

Sometimes a really good one doesn’t even hurt when you get it.

Cept for later.

61. wiserbud - July 29, 2009

You know, in my entire life, I have never been punched in the face.

Heh. In my younger days, I was in a situation with a girlfriend who said “I’m so mad at you, I just want to punch you!” I, being the funny, witty moron that I am, said “Well, okay, if that will make you feel better.”

I closed my eyes, tensed up my stomach in preparation for the punch I really didn’t expect to come, and she hauled off and clocked my right in the jaw.

Just in case you were wondering…no, she did not have the extreme good fortune to become Mrs. wiserbud, poor thing.

62. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

Mrs. Wiserbud would have punched you in the balls.

63. reason - July 29, 2009

^ with a broken bottle.

64. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

^ and set them on fire

65. wiserbud - July 29, 2009

^ and set them on fire

And I probably would have deserved it.

66. Mrs. Peel - July 29, 2009

I’ve never punched or been punched, or had someone punch someone else on my behalf.

I feel so deprived.

67. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

>> And I probably would have deserved it.

You probably still do.

68. wiserbud - July 29, 2009

I’ve never punched or been punched, or had someone punch someone else on my behalf.

Come to the next CT meet-up. I’m sure Michael will do something that provide you with an opportunity to fix that.

69. wiserbud - July 29, 2009

You probably still do.

And probably always will.

70. reason - July 29, 2009

If you haven’t lived your life deserving, at one point or another, to have your junk set ablaze…then have you ever truly lived?

71. reason - July 29, 2009

This is what happens when you leave me here unattended.

72. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

That’s why I keep the lighter fluid in the truck.

73. reason - July 29, 2009

AWW, DAMMIT DAVE.

So much for owning the “recent comments” feed…

74. Michael - July 29, 2009

I’m sure Michael will do something that provide you with an opportunity to fix that.

No problem. Should be a cinch to give Mrs. Peel a darn good reason to punch me.

Plus, it’s pretty safe. She’d have to get a ladder to hit my face. She’ll probably go for a shot to the junk.

75. Sobek - July 29, 2009

Sandy, I was wearing boxing gloves and headgear at the time, so I think I’ll be okay. It still hurt, though.

76. kevlarchick - July 29, 2009

I have never been punched either. Nor have I punched anyone. I prefer the Glare of Death.

Sobek, try putting a big raw dinosaur steak on your jaw. It seemed to work well for Fred Flinstone.

77. Joy Behar is still a raving banshee, even when I watch - July 29, 2009

It had to be said.

78. wiserbud - July 29, 2009

Nor have I punched anyone. I prefer the Glare of Death.

I must admit, I was truly impressed by your self-control when I unfortunately despoiled your nice shoes…

79. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

I learned an important lesson in the 9th grade about boxing when you have braces on your teeth.

Wear the mouthguard.

My mouth was turned into hamburger by a medium weight junior who had Ali-like speed.

80. John Stansbury - July 29, 2009

Keith Olberman…

…junk…

…fire…

Feeling some inspiration now.

81. geoff - July 29, 2009

Here you go, John:

Keith Olbermann

(not on fire, unfortunately)

82. John Stansbury - July 29, 2009

I was thinking about inquiring about an “Ask Innocent Bystanders” for a couple of hours this morning. Then Shaft came on at IHOP and I totally forgot about it. Been singing Shaft all afternoon since.

Decided that tipping begins at $5.00 USD for me from now on. There’s some more complex math involved, due to how wage scales work, so that’s the thing that I’d like to ask somebody with some math skills.

83. kevlarchick - July 29, 2009

Shaft? No one understands him but his woman.

84. wiserbud - July 29, 2009

shut you mouth!

85. Michael - July 29, 2009

“Ask Innocent Bystanders”

We used to have a regular advice column that we subcontracted to HayZeus, who pretty much knows everything about everything, but he quit on us. Nobody else around here knows much about anything, unless you want to learn how to make a chart from Geoff.

86. John Stansbury - July 29, 2009

Actually, one of the things was if I was going to tip at least $5 USD every time I go to a tip–compliant restaurant, how would I be able to figure out a way to keep that same rate and/or percentage going when the bill exceeds $40 USD.

The point is being overtly generous (and, until I get that crackwhore business going, this amount’ll have to suffice).

And yes, the most fun thing about Shaft is the whole “he’s a bad mother–SHUT YOUR MOUTH” thing.

I’ve only done that, like, 60 times today.

87. Michael - July 29, 2009

Also, if you tell me which non-Lutheran denomination you belong to, I can advise you on what is wrong with your theology.

88. John Stansbury - July 29, 2009

It’s like the Justice League of America, only instead of super–powers, you all have prejudices, gripes, complaints, problems with alcohol, and charts. Got it.

I was looking for a Justice League of America, only instead of super–powers, they all have post–graduate degrees, focus group experience, rich unwed princesses looking to dumpster dive, and charts. You can see how I was confused by the similarities.

89. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

Yeah, my breakfast/lunch minimum is $3, if the bill is over ten bucks then I’m a 15-20% guy on the decent to good service scale. If you sucked I drop it to 10%, but I assess no penalty if it’s not your fault you suck (kitchen backed up or you have too many tables to watch and you’re just working your ass off). Sometimes I bump that to 30% under those circumstances.

Of course everybody knows women LauraW’s age don’t tip. I heard.

90. geoff - July 29, 2009

Oh for crying out loud. If you want to tip 20%, then pay $5 up to $25, then 20% thereafter (divide bill by 10, multiply by 2).

If you want to tip 10%, then pay $5 up to $50, then 10% thereafter (divide bill by 10, duh).

If you want to tip 15%, then pay $5 up to $37.50, then pay 15% thereafter (divide bill by 10, add half of the result to the result).

91. wiserbud - July 29, 2009

Oh for crying out loud……..

I think there’s a chart around here somewhere the spells this all out for you, if you’re interested.

92. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

Or you can just put in 2 bucks for every 10 on the bill without gettin all crazy with geoffmath™

93. geoff - July 29, 2009

Or you can just put in 2 bucks for every 10 on the bill without gettin all crazy with geoffmath™

Sure, if you want to blithely ignore the $5 minimum limitation that was clearly mandated in the problem statement.

94. wiserbud - July 29, 2009

Sure, if you want to blithely ignore the $5 minimum limitation that was clearly mandated in the problem statement.

I was specifically told there would be no math.

95. lauraw - July 29, 2009

Psssht. You guys are so funny.

What you do is ask the waitress if she knows whether a tomato is a fruit or a vegetable…

96. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

>> Sure, if you want to blithely ignore the $5 minimum limitation that was clearly mandated in the problem statement.

Yes, which I blithely did Dr. Smarty McSmartypants by preemptively declaring my own minimum under ten rule.

97. Enas Yorl - July 29, 2009

Or you can just use the tip-calculator thingy on your cell-phone. 🙂

98. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

Blithely ignoring problem statement parameters got my happy ass through stat thank you very hello.

99. Blythe Danner - July 29, 2009

I WON’T be ignored!

100. reason - July 29, 2009

Tips, schmips…

101. Mrs. Peel - July 29, 2009

*contemplates punching Michael in the junk*

*checks price of tickets to Connecticut*

*remembers that Michael lives a four-hour drive away and closes the Travelocity browser tab*

*checks to see if her gas tank is full*

*gets sleepy and decides to take a nap instead*

102. Mrs. Peel - July 29, 2009

HayZeus has been hanging around more often lately. Maybe we could convince him to bring Ask HayZeus Thursday back. He could host it at my place.

One time, I was out for dinner with a group of college friends, and we were talking about some motors we were building. So naturally, we were using the word “shaft,” in an engineering context. At one point, I said, “Man, that cat Shaft is one bad mother.” They stared at me blankly. Embarrassed, I ducked my head and muttered, “Just talkin’ ’bout Shaft.”

103. sandy burger - July 29, 2009

I ducked my head and muttered, “Just talkin’ ’bout Shaft.”

Ha! I was gonna say you’re way cooler than most engineering geeks, but that’s pretty much a textbook example of damning with faint praise.

104. Michael - July 29, 2009

I want to pay a tip of 17%, with a minimum tip of $3.65.

*Taps foot, waits for Geoff to do the math*

105. geoff - July 29, 2009

I’m not going to do the math anymore. I’m going to give the formula:

B=Bill Amount
T=Tip Percentage
Tmin = Minimum Tip Amount

Amount you pay = Tmin+(Bill Amount – Tmin/T)*T
this works for Bill Amount > Tmin/T, otherwise pay Tmin

106. Sobek - July 29, 2009

10 let t = b * 0.17
20 if t 3.65 then goto 40
40 let 3.65 – t = s
50 t + s
60 print “t”
70 end

107. Michael - July 29, 2009

How do I know you guys aren’t just makin’ that shit up.

Huh?

I wouldn’t put it past either one of you.

108. Mrs. Peel - July 29, 2009

Hmm. I’d have done it this way:

if b > 21.47
t = b * 0.17;
else
t = 3.65;
end

109. John Stansbury - July 29, 2009

Thanks geoff. That was what I was looking for. The only thing I’m not sure about is the escalation factor. Meaning, how far does it go before the tip amount becomes gauche.

The start of all this was when [a really hot] waitress [I was hitting on] was waiting on me in Ryan’s, and she told me about what she made at IHOP. I knew she [was really hot and] worked at IHOP, so that’s why I asked her about the second job.

She was talking about the abysmal rates they make per hour, and I was reminded of what one of my flaming liberal roommates from college does. He either tips $5 or nothing, depending on the service. As work per hour, I figured that would work out to a good percentage.

I really thought I might be over–engineering that question, but 20% of a $100 tab doesn’t (for some reason) seem to be enough. I think there’s some other, logarithmic factor that I just don’t know about.

That’s why I’m a writer and an administrator, not an engineer.

Vicious hatred of chemistry had something to do with it, as well.

110. Sobek - July 29, 2009

geoff’s and Peel’s don’t have my retro charm.

111. BrewFan - July 29, 2009

double tip = b < 21.47 ? 3.65 : b * .17

112. Sobek - July 29, 2009

10 print “Suck it, Michael!”
20 goto 10
30 end

113. John Stansbury - July 29, 2009

Infinite loop. Needs one of them counters or you’ll have to do that break keyboard thing.

114. Sobek - July 29, 2009

*furtively kicks John Stansbury in the shin*

115. John Stansbury - July 29, 2009

Hey now! I just found out how awesomely simple HTML5 is, so I’m kinda living in the clean–code world.

Until I get back to trying to make WordPress behave again. Immature tags, I tells ya! Not enough arguments in the tags!

116. geoff - July 29, 2009

Pseudo-Code:

if ((Age>30).and.(Age<40)).or.(User='lauraw')
then Tip=0
else ….

117. Vmaximus - July 29, 2009

heheh

118. Vmaximus - July 29, 2009

This girl I know was looking for some money for school, I paid her to sketch Max, Bear, and Zeke. Here is her first sketch of Max.
max sketch
I have it framed and hanging over my fire place. I really like it and am looking forward to Bear and Zeke!
max sketch

119. Vmaximus - July 29, 2009

Oops! sorry about the 2 links. I do not know how I did that.

120. Mrs. Peel - July 29, 2009

Hey, hey, you guys, did y’all see that that stupid RINO bitch Kay Bailey Hutchison is retiring from her Senate seat? I guess she really thinks she’s going to win governor. This is a great opportunity to get an actual conservative representing Texas! I nominate Ted Poe.

(I would suggest my dad, but I’ve been trying to get him to primary He Who Must Not Be Named…)

121. Mrs. Peel - July 29, 2009

Actually, if we REALLY want to make the liberals’ heads explode…have the last few made-up charges against Tom Delay been dismissed yet?

122. Mrs. Peel - July 29, 2009

😦 I just found out that my high school biology teacher died last week. Not surprising given his age – in fact, he taught biology to a boy who grew up to become a teacher himself, and taught me (and my sister) German in middle school. But still a big loss – he was the greatest biology teacher ever. I still quote him when I lecture people about biomedical engineering stuff.

Requiescat in pace.

123. Dave in Texas - July 29, 2009

Peelie, sorry about your former teacher.

2 of 3 charges against Delay were tossed by the Texas Supreme Court, the 3rd (conspiracy) is pending but Earle wouldn’t bring it to trial.

124. Edward Von Bear - July 29, 2009

120: you mean The Only Man Who Can Save America?

125. Mrs. Peel - July 30, 2009

Earle is such a crook.

Eddie, yes. I call him He Who Must Not Be Named because if you say his name, his minions show up. Kinda like Voldemort.

126. Dave in Texas - July 30, 2009

Earle got exactly what he wanted out of it. He isn’t interested in a trial.

On the plus side of things, it’s raining this morning for the first time in weeks.

127. Cathy - July 30, 2009

We have had some rain off and on for the last few days, but this morning a real gully-washer. 54mph winds reported over at DFW. No major damage for us. Pool boy’s gonna be busy.

128. Mrs. Peel - July 30, 2009

We’ve been getting rain nearly every day the last couple weeks. Which is why my hibiscus looks so awesome. My oleander still isn’t blooming much, though, but my rose just put up some new buds.

129. Retired Geezer - July 30, 2009

Oleanders!
I just realized that I never see them in the Spud State. You couldn’t walk 300 yards in Las Vegas without bumping into one.

They probably aren’t encouraged up here with all the livestock because they are poisonous.

130. Retired Geezer - July 30, 2009

I wish I could find some Ailanthus Altissima to plant here. They really grow fast and are very hardy.

IIRC those are the “Tree of Heaven” featured in the novel “A Tree Grows in Brooklyn”.

131. Michael - July 30, 2009

IIRC those are the “Tree of Heaven”

It’s also called a Stink Tree, and for good reason. They smell bad. We had one in our yard when I was a kid. I’d think twice before planting one. My impression is that they are considered a trash tree today, which is probably why you don’t see them being sold.

Also, aside from being poisonous, I don’t think oleander can survive the winters up north. I’ve never seen one anyplace where the ground freezes.

132. BrewFan - July 30, 2009

A Tree Grows in Brooklyn is one of my all-time favorite books.

133. lauraw - July 30, 2009

I grew out an oleander cutting into a small potted tree, years ago. Gorgeous and responds well to correct pruning (IIRC, every where you make a cut, it creates three new shoots, so you have to plan for that).

Yeah, I had to bring it in each Fall but having flowers indoors during Winter was nice.

134. Retired Geezer - July 30, 2009

Stink Tree…

Yeah, they are stinky, but for a hedge/windbreak/shade effect 90 feet away from the house, they are OK.

I like Oleanders, we always had them around our houses in Nevada. Just didn’t want to take a chance that the (stupid) horses would eat them. I had to transplant a Jeffersred Maple for that reason.

135. Dave in Texas - July 30, 2009

Yeah, they are toxic aren’t they?

I keep hoping the neighbor’s cats will check ours out.


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