October Unemployment Rate Jumps Upward ==> 10.2%! November 6, 2009
Posted by geoff in News.trackback
UPDATE: November numbers are here
The economic for October predictions were 175,000 non-farm jobs lost, and an unemployment rate at or just below 10%. Just based on initial unemployment filings, I think you’d have had to count on people continuing to drop out of the system to get numbers that low.
So what actually happened? As of this morning, the Bureau of Labor Statistics tells us that we lost 190,000 non-farm jobs, and that the unemployment rate has risen to 10.2%. So let’s have a gander at where that puts us on the “OMG Christine Romer and Jared Bernstein Are Teh Suck” chart:
That’s pretty startling. The reason, though, is that fewer people dropped out of the labor force last month. As I’ve mentioned ad nauseam in past posts, the labor market is responding sort of oddly in this recession, with millions of people simply dropping out of the labor force. They’re not counted among job seekers or even discouraged workers – they’re gone completely from the statistics. So a more useful number, I believe, is the number of jobs remaining in the country. Here’s that graph:
A Side Note on the Administration’s Defense of the Stimulus. The President and his economic team have claimed that the plan is working as intended, that they’re on track to save the original goal of 3.6 million jobs, but somehow, despite practically drowning in success, we’re going to have to live with high unemployment for years to come. Oh, and that everything is still Bush’s fault.
These claims have been debunked by a variety of sources, including the AP (and here), the Chicago Tribune, the Denver Post, USA Today, the Wall Street Journal, and blogs such as Political Math (H/T d3ft punk).
But forget the quantitative treatment for a moment and consider what the Obama team’s graph said on a qualitative level. The graph says that within a couple of quarters, the stimulus package will stop the increase in unemployment and reverse the employment trend. That was the real mission of the stimulus. Stop job loss. Get the private sector hiring again.
So no matter how convoluted and fanciful the “jobs created or saved” numbers get, we just have to remember what the point used to be, and realize how far short we’ve fallen. And whose fault that really is.
Previous posts in this series:
- Initial unemployment claims through the end of October
- A “million jobs saved?” A drop in the bucket.
- Comparing the administration’s statements to reality
- The September numbers
- The August numbers
- The “million jobs saved” claim
- Initial unemployment filings
- The July numbers.
- The percentage of private-employed workers is steadily decreasing, meaning that the burden of supporting government workers is increasing. How long can this trend continue?
- The June numbers.
- Mark Zandi (Moody’s Economy.com) kind of agreed with the Obama team’s projection back in January. But his predictions weren’t much better.
- Saying that “the recession is worse than anybody thought” is a tired old tune
- Everybody did not “guess wrong” on the stimulus package
- The corrected chart for May.
- The predicted numbers for May from a few days ago, with some thoughts on why unemployment is worse than expected even without the stimulus package (and a hearty discussion in the comments on proper graphing)
- A look at the stimulus package spending – how late it is, and how little thus far has been devoted to job creation (it’s basically gone to pay off states’ social services debts)
- The April numbers
- The original post on the subject, noting that criticisms of the stimulus package may not have been motivated by racism after all.
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You know what will really get the economy humming again? Nancy’s Health Care Scheme.
And Cap and Tax.
Those dems are geniuses. I’m so glad we finally have “Smart” instead of “Cowboy” in the White House.
Good job, geoff!
I think that if we can sufficient buzz over this number going today, it could influence Pelosi’s health care vote tomorrow.
We’ve got to scare the Blue Dogs a little.
I, personally, question the timing.
Can I go on record with that?
off the chart!! I just knew that y axis wasnt long enough.Time to overlay the dots with a bit red line with an arrow head on the top of it. G, you can substitute a triangle for the arrow head if you orient it correctly and it makes you feel better.
bit = big
I’ll be dropping comments everywhere I can find on these figures. Let’s get to work, folks! Kudos to this blog!
i’m not sure we’ve seen the end of it yet Geoff, could go higher if more foreclosed homes go on the market and crash construction.
Anybody know where they sell turd polish this time of morning?
Wow big happenings on the hill….Boxer holds vote on Cap and Trade without the minority party present. Pelosi reneges on her promise to post her health care bill online for 72hrs before vote. The freaks are growing bolder.
Obama was lying…
Job are still dying…
Obama lied
Jobs died
Thanks Geoff.
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You’re gonna need a bigger chart.
Can I please have the DUMB president back?
Thanks Geoff.
You’re gonna need a bigger chart.
D’oh! Beaten to it.
It’s probably just statistical noise, but, in retrospect, that little blip down, from June to July, now seems eerily coincident with this Stephie-Step-On-All-Of-Us story from a few weeks ago:
Obama Economic Adviser: The Stimulus’ Impact on Economic Growth Has Past [sic]
George Stephanopoulos
October 22, 2009 10:49 AM
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/10/obama-economic-adviser-the-stimulus-impact-on-economic-growth-has-past.html
An interesting tidbit from Dr. Christina Romer’s testimony before the Joint Economic Committee. Citing economic analysts she says the fiscal stimulus will have its greatest impact on growth in the second and third quarters of 2009. (Editors note – those quarters are now behind us). By mid-2010, according to her testimony submitted to the committee, the “fiscal stimulus will likely be contributing little to growth”…
In other words, these Marxist fools have shot their wad and now they’re all out of ideas.
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Perhaps seeing this will disabuse him of Pelosi’s deraanged notion that this is good for the economy.
Define “good”.
Heck, define the economy:
…And yet for all that poverty, there remained in their lives a discernible order, a tapestry of trading routes and middlemen, bribes to pay and customs to observe, the habits of a generation played out every day beneath the bargaining and the noise and the swirling dust. It was the absence of such coherence that made a place like Altgeld so desperate…
‘Mainstreaming’ Bill Ayers:
well, Geoff, you can bet Charlie Gibson will never have heard of the economy. Can’t let facts get in the way of his agenda
Wonder what the spin on this will be on the nightly network news, presuming that they report it?
BUSH’S FAULT!!!11!!!eleventy!
Awesome how those unemployment figures managed to stay just below 10%, DANGER, CODE RED, THE SHIP CAN’T TAKE MUCH MORE CAPTAIN SHE’S FALLIN’ APART! level until the data released 3 days after election day.
I’m not a conspiracy guy, just a fan of coincidence.
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That’s a racist chart.
Fascinating that this administration has no ability to step back from their perch and wonder why “stimulus” isn’t working and isn’t working quite spectacularly.
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Add some more red dots. You forgotthe self-employed.
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@ Mostly Right (26) —
I don’t know. Don’t get me wrong; I’m no Obamapologist. I’m just saying that the timing of these numbers shouldn’t strike anyone as suspicious. Believing other than the “official story” would imply a belief that the administration had doctored the numbers, which would in turn imply that they had both the will and skill to do so effectively, and I just don’t feature that being the case…
…and I, for one, have never questioned this administration’s will…
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@26 Maybe they’re not intellectually curious.
@31 I actually don’t. As long as the definitions remain constant, I don’t suspect the timing, or to mistrust the people at the BLS. Still, some journalist with the time and resources to investigate all the variables, influence and potential political interests might find it worth at least looking into. It’s not just the Executive Branch that would have had personal political interest in stifling the numbers pre-election.
Check out the chart that the GOP just put on its website.
Check out the chart that the GOP just put on its website.
Yeah – that’s the one Instapundit linked to, darn it. It’s really pretty, but it starts at 8%, and doesn’t use the actual Obama chart as its base (so I don’t think it’s as obviously credible). So…hmmmppphhh.
Not that I’m jealous or anything. Nope, not at all. Not the least little bit. No sir…
“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.”
“Good artists copy, great artists steal.”
Pablo Picasso (allegedly)
“Good artists copy, great artists steal.”
…stupid artists steal copies.
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I noticed Gateway Pundit doing his own version of your chart too.
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Don’t you understand? This ‘stimulus’ IS working EXACTLY as planned! Turn us all into govt serfs @ the administration calling ALL the shots.
Once ‘beholden’ to the feds, the serfs can’t un-elect the Democrat party, hence one party rule FOREVER! MARXIST nirvana!!!!
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I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC…IF THE OBAMA IS TO DESTROY AMERICA AND IS ‘WORKING’ THEN WHY IS MY 401K UP 29% THIS YEAR?
geoff, the Zero Hedge guys improved on your chart a little …
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/rise-critical-jobs-neither-saved-nor-created-figures
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“OMG Christine Romer and Jared Bernstein Are Teh Suck” chart:
Hahahahahaha! That’s funny as a mofo.
Normally I’m not one to make suggestions on improving teh awesome but I think the data line showing actual unemployment needs a name.
We have “With Recovery Plan” and “Without Recovery Plan”. There needs to be a name for real world series.
I humbly suggest the following:
“With Saved Jobs and Powdered Unicorn Horn”.
That is all.
Hi Cathy! *smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooch*
I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC…IF THE OBAMA IS TO DESTROY AMERICA AND IS ‘WORKING’ THEN WHY IS MY 401K UP 29% THIS YEAR?
ALL YOUR 29% ARE BELONG TO ME!!
Also, STFU. This blog sucks enough on its own. It doesn’t need you wiping your butt on it.
What a winning formula for the American People. Not only did the Democrats “win” on Tuesday night as Pelosi said, but the American people are winning with higher unemployment.
That HOPE and CHANGE is really something, isn’t it.
If you understand Austrian economics, not the pseudo-science of Keynesianism, you’d realize that all the policies being followed are going to tend to make the depression worse. They are just doing more of the same government interventions that got us into this mess. The past 20 years have been bailouts, GSEs, below market interest rates, government borrowing based on foreign debt, being the worlds policeman, and massive foreign aid. Now they are just doing it on steroids.
Tell me exactly why our central bank should have to bail out foreign central banks to the tune of $1 trillion dollars? What’s the matter, they can start their own printing presses like Zimbabwe?
I’ve known this was coming ever since the Clinton adminstration. I screamed bloody murder about Greenspans pumping up and then response to the bursting of the internet bubble. I knew that he was only pumping up a housing bubble. There were so many obvious signs he was screwing things up monetarily, for example the trade deficit.
I’m telling you now that this is only the beginning of this mess. The current administration, all the Democrats, and most Republicans too are complete economic ignoramuses. Our universities ensure that by teaching Keynesian based economics exclusively.
The current policies will only tend to reinforce disruptions to the economic fabric. As it postpones the correction it also adds to the distortions and destroys real wealth.
The ironic thing is that if they did absolutely nothing, and reduced government spending the economy would correct itself.
It’s becoming increasingly clear that the number of “births” or “phantom jobs” in 2009, in the Labor Department’s “birth/death model” of small business employment, have run out.
This doesn’t bode well for the “death” correction that comes in the January 2010 numbers out on Feb 5, 2010. My eyeball of the numbers says it will be 12-13% unemployment then.
This is too funny trying to blame Obama for 30 years of failed conservative economic policies..
This is too funny trying to blame Obama for 30 years of failed conservative economic policies..
Har. Never met a lib who didn’t love a strawman.
This is too funny trying to blame Obama for 30 years of failed conservative economic policies..
Poor Obama…the Inheritor in Chief.
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Hey Moby
Well, weren’t we told that the oceans would recede and the wounds would heal and all of that good stuff if Obama was elected? All he seems to be able to do is act like an elementary school child and blame someone else.
Why don’t you libs tell your guy to stop whining and work his magic?
Problem is, he can’t. He is an amateur!!! Never belonged in the spot to begin with.
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I can haz Instalanche?
Glad to see Glenn Reynolds came around and published the one-and-only authoritative Geoff Chart.
The people have been heard.
Q1 in 2007 is when the new congress took office. What started happening to jobs and the deficit when?
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Hi Cathy! *smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooch*
*blushes*
You even got a link at NRO’s Campaign Spot, Geoff. I’m sure the crazy blog-money will start coming your way any minute now.
Yup, with Michael splitting all the proceeds right down the middle with me, we’re both heading for Easy Street. Yes sir, rolling in the dough. Raking it in hand over fist. Overfilling our wazoos.
Sigh.
http://moelane.com/2009/11/09/surely-unemployment-wont-reach-10-so-soon/
and this as well
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“This is too funny trying to blame Obama for 30 years of failed conservative economic policies.”
Conservatives were running Congress and the Executive Branch in 1979?
Moby must be a product of the local university political science courses–they tend to be havens for those who can’t handle the complexity of introductory-level history.
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My crotch won’t stop itching…..
Geoff? Got any Canadian Preparation H for Pimp D?
I was astonished by this animated county-by-county depiction of our recession.
http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html
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Obama and the Congress only have one plan; spend, spend, spend … There is no back-up plan!!!
with the recovery plan you should have graphed the line higher than without the recovery plan. And i’m not even republican. u main street media people are liars! i’m done voting democrat! u don’t include outside information.
We had over 11% unemployment in the 1981-83 recession caused by Reagan taking office and jacking up interest rates to 18%. 30 million American jobs were outsourced to China and other countries during George W Bush’s term. How soon the Republican hypocrites forget!
I’m skeptical that the stimulus spending is going to have any long term positive affects on private sector jobs. But just to play devil’s advocate, the stimulus spending has to go through bureaucratic processes that have been in place long before the current administration took office.
For example, if the federal government intends to contract with the private sector to deliver products or to provide services, the government first has to define the requirements and specifications in a Statement of Work. A solicitation for the contractual work to be performed has to be published by the appropriate administrative agency. Time has to be allowed for proposals from potential vendors to be submitted. A Technical Evaluation Team has to be created and staffed to weigh the proposals received against the Statement of Work to decide which contractor’s proposal provides the best value to the government.
All that can take months before the contract is even signed. It may sound like a bureaucratic waste of time, but without these fixed processes and paper trails government contracting would become nothing but cronyism and corruption.
Yes, this has been a long-standing point, and the subject of an argument we just had on the current employment thread. You might want to go to the main page to catch up on the latest info.
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Great article. There’s a lot of nice information. I wanted to let you know something though – I am running Redhat with the beta of Firefox and the layout of your blog is kind of quirky for me. I can understand the articles, but the navigation doesn’t work so great.
Art, I am a lawyer, not a techie. If you use the latest release of Firefox or IE as your browser, our site will show up just fine. It is hosted by WordPress, and they generally know what they are doing.
I am running Redhat with the beta of Firefox
It is very unlikely that Linux is the issue as the browser is responsible for rendering the page. My suggestion would be to ditch the beta of Firefox. There is going to be a lot of this as the browser makers try to support HTML5. I am using the IE9 beta and some WordPress blogs totally crash it (*glares at The Hostages*)
Beta releases are for people who like things all fucked up and shit.
It’s like you were begging for it, wearing that slinky browser. Just lie back and think of England.