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35%? I’m Surprised It’s That Low July 1, 2015

Posted by geoff in News.

It’s an online poll conducted by a trendy online service, so the results are likely to be seriously skewed, but:

A recent online poll of more than 2,000 adults by TransferWise, a peer-to-peer money transfer service based in the United Kingdom, revealed that 35 percent of American-born residents and emigrants would consider leaving the United States to live in another country.

They never ask the right questions in these polls, because while many of us are seriously unhappy the direction of the United States, there aren’t really any places to go that offer more conservative values. A better question would be, “Assuming technology, medicine, and science were equal, which decade of the United States would you most like to live in?”

That is, culturally, legally, and economically, where’s your sweet spot in US history?


1. geoff - July 1, 2015

I think the 60’s might be my choice. We were still looking outward at growing into the universe, rather than gazing at our navels trying to resolve the teeniest of internal conflicts. Democrats were more conservative than today’s Republicans, and people still believed in America and American heroes.

2. geoff - July 1, 2015

Looks like Veeshir at DPUD had thoughts along the same line.

3. Mr. Matamoros - July 2, 2015

The 60’s, geoff? Too many smelly hippies. I think I would go for the 90’s where there is enough technology (cell phones, computers, etc.) to keep me happy and Americans were much less insane than today.

4. geoff - July 2, 2015

Ah, but the groundrules were that technology is equal across all decades: you’re supposed to make your choice solely on social, legal, and economic grounds.

5. geoff - July 2, 2015

…and there were too many smelly hippies, but I suspect it’s like LGBTUIOPEIREPOIHJRIO people today: lots of publicity but really a small demographic.

6. Sobek - July 2, 2015

Speaking of retreating into fantasy worlds, did any of you see all three parts of Atlas Shrugged? There’s a part in the third movie that was just laughably ridiculous.

7. Retired Geezer - July 3, 2015

We saw all 3 movies. Which part (there were a few)?

8. Mr. Matamoros - July 3, 2015

Crikey, you’re right, geoff. Excuse my poor reading skills. Then it’s the 60’s for me. Though I would expect Beatlemania would drive you bat-guano crazy.

9. Sobek - July 3, 2015

So there’s a part where Dagny is in libertarian utopia, listening to a political lecture from Ned Ryerson while they both drink wine. That scene killed the rest of the movie for me, because suddenly the entire notion of libertarian utopia was revealed as an obvious absurdity.

The two things I know with certainty about Libertarians is that 1. No two of them agree on what libertarianism actually means, and 2. They love love love talking political theory.

So libertarian utopia would last all of a day before crumbling to dust. Every conversation would end with bitter acrimony, and the next conversation would always be coming right up. Maybe Ned Ryerson can talk to Dagny the Newbie like a professor, at least for a while, but when he tries that crap on someone else, someone’s going to get cut.

10. Retired Geezer - July 3, 2015

Yeah that part was pretty boring but I didn’t realize why until you pinpointed it.

also lol@Ned Ryerson

11. geoff - July 3, 2015

Maybe those sorts of conversations will be more plausible after another 8 years of Democratic rule.

12. Sobek - July 3, 2015

I was actually thrilled to see Needle nose Ned getting work. I love that guy. Too bad it was in such a poorly done movie.

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